Brf cake to coir. then once it colonizes, it would be a huge tub/cake.
Brf cake to coir. It works, but I'd reccomend using a fresh cake instead.
Brf cake to coir 6 cups vermiculite, 1/5 cups gypsum, 3. Registered : 10/04 Green mold possibly on BRF Cake [Re: EntheogenicPeace] #14737056 - 07/08/11 04:10 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote Where I live vermiculite costs much more than Coco coir so I make BRF cakes with coir instead of verm. I understand field capacity just fine and Im used to achieving it when using coir to roll my cakes from previous grows. You do not want any sources of nutrients for contams to settle in. You will get so much more out of it if you do. Using manure tea to hydrate the above materials produces a pseudo-manure substrate with beneficial microbes but without the added nitrogen in the biomass; The integral supplementation also removes the 299K subscribers in the MushroomGrowers community. Started seeing pins in the brf cake experiment. Cheers! Boil the water and add it to the coir in this container. I just did x4 1 pint BRF cakes / x10 1 pints of Coir. i think brf contams kinda easy tho. and mix with 3-4qts pasteurized coir/verm or past. monotubs way easier since u only have to mist and fan 2-3 times a day. also be sure to cut away any of the cake that wasn't colonized. I plan on doing 11 cakes per 750 grams I say mini because the container I'm going to use is approx 3" deep, 6" long, and 3 to 3. Is this a problem or something im doing Going to put 3 BRF pint size cakes into my FC tomorrow. Trybto get ahold of some coco coir. Do not mix in uncolonized bits of BRF cakes. if you've tried fruiting I have researched BRF to bulk and that's what I am going to do. Anyway, I finally figured it out by myself, spawned brf to coir+verm monotub with a ratio of 1:9. patreon. Id spawn to bulk with all the cakes and move away from brf cakes into grain spawn. Enjoy. thought id throw up a quick update. The simple procedures needed for growing BRF cakes instills the skills needed to eventually move onto grains, and other procedures in mycology that require a higher level of sterile technique. JUST UNDER FIELD CAPACITY I will be using 100% coir for this tek. "dunk" place them underwater for 24 hours. Posted by u/BioHackedRomulan - 1 vote and 9 comments I cased 3 brf cakes to coir/gyp/verm and i have tons of side pinning, but nothing on top. No verm, or gypsum for this first go. manure/verm and let them recolonize in your trays/tubs/whatever you chose I have 6 brf/verm cakes that are ready for a fruiting chamber. My idea is to place a proper combination of coir and BRF and water into the container then put a bunch of liquid culture on top of that, then cover with more Like koolaid said,SPAWNING the BRF cakes to a bulk substrate will get you more then the cakes. I should be able to maintain 97-99% humidity and I'll have almost exactly 12 hours of indirect sunlight a day. 5:1 ratio in new substrate I’ve fruited cakes and got few ozs dried but wanted to Sure you can, yield is not going to be amazing but it works (maybe use 50/50 manure+verm as bulk instead of coir to add some nutrients). Note: Easily shop for mushroom growing supplies in our shop. It is primarily used as a casing layer in monotubs or as a substrate additive. This outer layer should be roughly 5-10mm thick, and the coir shouldn't It got pushed to the back of the closet for awhile and forgotten. My goal is to show from start to finish the entire process of making 6 brf cakes and spawning to bulk using coir inside a 6qt shoebox. Keep the temperature there and put a light on them on a 12/12 timer. Thanks :) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Posted : 2/18/2016 2:43:30 AM Music is alive and in your soul. Add 2qts prepped coir to the shredded cakes. If you screwed up and used the wrong jars, think about using this substrate to colonize more substrate, or a straw log. Shred brf cakes with cheese grater > mix all Brf cakes are more suited for newbies with minimal supplies. horse poop - 4. In addition to moisture retention, the porous structure of coir material enables excellent gas exchange, water supply, and is highly resistant to contaminants. The procedure and ratios are the same as with regular PF Tek BRF cakes, The only difference Once I combined the coir with the cakes, in the shoebox, I literally just just left it alone until the mushrooms started pushing the top off—aside from controlling the lamp above. The humidity chamber consists of a plastic tub filled with 1-2 inches of hydrated coir, with BRF cakes placed on top. Most sub/spawn ratios around here are by volume. . After harvesting, rice flour with flour from other grains like millet or rye and the vermiculite with other substrate materials like coco coir. Sterilized at with industrial High Pressure But for real definitely give it a shot, I did BRF to coir for awhile before moving to oats to coir and while I could never get cakes to fruit my trays that I put in an SGFC all kicked ass, Don't do any less spawn than 1:1 as brf cakes are already only 1/3 nutrition Extras: Top: DnDRnD Hobby cultivator. 75 Quart tupperware tub- •1/8 brick of coir (pain in the a$$ to cut the bricks) •1 cup of Vermiculite •2 cups boiling water •1 quarter pint BRF cake (coir 50/50 BRF spawn). then drop the cake, or cakes into it allowing it to over flow more, and then push the lid down on it, pushing the cake down, and letting it overflow till the container is sealed shut. 2nd pic was from a prior pf grow, something like 3 spawned to six 250ml jars of verm/coir (50/50). Sports. There was no maintenance after the cake was put on the moist vermiculite. Birthed 6 brf cakes a little while ago and put them into fruiting for a couple days. Now it has grown out a bit but otherwise staying right on the bits of cake. Hi, from Updated PF-Tek Guide 2023 Edition "Water Tub Method" Mateja rolls the brf cakes in hydrated coir. Simple math ~2-5g/cake/flush is a decent estimate IMO. Premium Explore Gaming. Throw the 1/2 brick of coir and the 1 quart of vermiculite in a 5 gallon bucket,add 2 quarts of boiling water and place the lid securely on the bucket. Ready to use, just inject with spores. Sorry I don't have any pics- I have 2 brf cakes in my fruiting chamber, been there for 6 days. Break up your cakes into small pieces (more points of inoculation) or use a cheese grater to grate them up. I like using small tubs so I can use less cakes (3-4 brf cakes for one 7. Before long, the cake will sprout mushrooms. You can absolutely just shred or crumble the cakes into a mono tub with coir. Moving away from cakes to tubs I'm working with Coir and it performs great. i was thinking of mixing up some brf and whacking it in the PC, then injecting some spores into it and using this instead of the take away containers Edit: By BRF I mean boring ass brf cakes. Dunno. Seems to make it colonize faster, but then again it could just be marginal. you can use BRF cakes, crumble them up, and mix it with substrate (bulk) to make a bigger cake. Reply Fruiting is best done around 68-70°f. One thing you can do is next time just run them side by side. Since I'm spawning from BRF cakes, should I still add the verm that the tek suggests? When using a coir sub spawn at a 1:1 ration (say one jar of spawn to one jar of sub). 5" wide. Do you guys dunk your BRF cakes? before spawning There is a brief mention of cori and CVG (which I imagine is Coir/Verm. Thank you!! I think I was just getting impatient and overwhelmed with all the information out there. Mix them together. Long live the unwoke. 3. Extras: Top: Crazymofomonk The cake on the left is a coco coir/brf cake , topped with moist vermiculite, bedded on moist vermiculite, in a filter patch bag. After having dunked your colonized cakes for 24h rinse them off quickly and then use hydrated coir to coat the cakes around the sides and on the top. Hydrate some coir. 4 oz would colonize faster, but yield by themself is going to be very small, so it’s better to go the bulk route with 4oz. This weekend I said fuck it and got setup for a shoebox. The cake 8 brf cakes is a shitload for one shoe box LOL I could be wrong but I use half pint and I'll do maybe three I've got away with two with no problems whatsoever I haven't even used for and it took over really quickly but when I use 3 and I use coco coir next with vermiculite at perfect Field capacity it seems to where I don't have to mist or fan or anyting everything just happens perfect. •1 brick of coir (expands to around 8 quarts) •2 quarts of Vermiculite •4 quarts boiling water So my exact amounts went as followed: -Using a 2. Also it feels like the verm i put on top for patching is very wet. Can I use 1/2 pint jars that are not wide mouth? You can, but getting the PF Tek / If you want to up the amount of nutes for the myc to feed on, then keep the cake ratio the same, just crumble the cake up (onced colonized) and transfer spoonfulls to rye jars, then spawn the rye jars to coir or poo and/or straw. Most common bacterial infections will spread via Flagellum motility in liquids or will secrete surfactants for motility on dry surfaces. It I spawned 4 1/2 pint brf cakes to 1. Help with Pan Cyan BRF cakes to bulk Cow manure/verm/coir #14126879 - 03/15/11 07:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: Hi this is Swim's first time posting on this forum, and he must say what a Hurrah, I found a place ot buy some spawn bags. As you can see it was NOT ground up by a cheese grader smh. The box is completely sealed and is being humidified by about an inch and a half of perlite. Fruiting [] Rather than tap the “cake,” you can spoon out the colonized substrate (rice / vermiculite_brf+gypsum) into a clean bowl—hence why you can use mason jars or ordinary glass jars, too. If you want to grow wood-loving species like shiitake or reishi mushrooms, Then I tried crumbling a brf cake into an unmodified shoebox tub with coco coir, and I was stunned at the difference. -----Grow Mushrooms from Spores - PF-Tek for Simple Minds. c i want the cakes to be more nutritious so the small cakes would produce more So then do the PF tek the right way. I would be innoculating with liquid culture also, because I assume that would be best. For my sub I did 50/50 coir and vermiculite which is the best substrate mix for a beginner because it is the most germ and mold resistant. Started with the famous PF-Tek method based on the book "The Psilocybin Mushroom Bible". Thanks for the info I now realized that I'll be aiming for 20 1/2 jars. Let your BRF Cakes colonize 100% then break them up and spawn to freshly pasteurized Coir. Maybe 1:1. - you could also go 50/50 - fruit 6 as cakes and spawn 6 to a shoebox. My question is, if I go with straight Coir, can I mix the boiled coir (once it cools down) directly with the shredded brf cakes? What is the ratio of coir to cake, 1 BRF cakes #29084397 - 01/10/25 11:59 PM (16 min ute s, 6 sec ond s ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: Trying my first attempt in well over a decade at the PF Tek. I fan and mist 4-6 times a day and have them on a 12 hour light rotation. Mix the colonized spawn and coir together in your fruiting chamber. Coco coir provides many benefits to the mushroom cultivation process. mix it well with the coir+verm substrate. I think fruiting cakes as cakes is a waste of time. (i like to get a tupperware container, and fill it up till it overflows. Too many other vectors for contamination. -----Extras: Top: nhobidy Stranger Registered: 01/06/17 Posts: 240 Last I've got 2 BRF cakes that have flushed once. I do find dunking cakes a lot easier than re-hydrating a bulk grow for me. Not being impatient, just trying to have a timeline. Or maybe cakes after their first flush? I've noticed most people will use I've been reading a bit about spawning to coir. My question is why the brf cakes? Birth your cakes from the jar. The volume will be the same ratios I give for grains. The coir will give the sub greater water capacity resulting in better flushes. 1:1 shredded cakes to coir, simple, straightforward. Let cool to below 90f. 25 votes, 28 comments. Don't bother with the coffee grounds. Question: After the 24 hr dunk, is rolling 1/2 pint brf cakes in dry vermiculite just as but there are people on here who drag out their coir substrates to like 4+ flushes. It will also increase chances of contamination. So I started this interesting hobby a couple of weeks ago. Cultivation I made a mistake and unfortunately I don't think my cakes are going to come out intact from the glass jars. 8 cups Your spwan ratio may be too low here. Play with different options to find the best tek for you. Only took 6 days to colonize the Coir. I’m actually a fan of oven baking my coir/verm. Grow out some cakes, set up a shoebox or mono next to it and grow them together. Measured out my dry coir, got my water boiling and dumped both into my bucket. Quote: And just to make sure, you cover the tray(s) with aluminum foil, poke a Feel free to use shredded BRF cakes for this, just replace any language I use stating "grains" and pretend like I'm saying "BRF". Come 1 quart boiling water 162. Now I'm BRF PF Tek Kit 2. Use a a high spawn ratio, at least until you're sure of your techniques. 307K subscribers in the MushroomGrowers community. It didn't consolidate so I'm not sure how well it'd work fruiting as a cake. Reply reply These are from brf cakes that were completely colonized thaf I added at 1:1 ratio into substrate that were in those sealed bags I let that colonize then added it to tins at 2:1 and 1. But I am wondering why when doing BRF cakes to bulk the new substrate that you add is What I want to do now however - is break my brf cakes up into a bulk substrate (such as coco coir) Once I sterilize the coco coir, what else do I put with the bulk substrate? And what is the ratio of coco to other ingredient? Could I use coco coir plus verm? Brf cakes to coco coir (1:2) shoebox. #agar #fungi #homegrown #howtogrow #mushroom #mushroomgrowing #mycelium #myc Breaking up BRF cakes. and then these BRF Cakes to Bulk guys are saying just run the damn thing through the cheese grater! Reply reply I have made a bunch of BRF cakes (p. I have my cakes on aluminum foil, FAE holes are 1/4 inch, about 2 inches apart on all sides of the chamber, 4 fingers high layer of perlite on the bottom. Im currently colonizing 12 1/2 pint BRF cakes which I intend to break up For the bulk substrate for each mini mono,use 1/2 a brick of coco coir,1 quart of vermiculite. Or do monotubs which take up the same space a an SGFC. I'm in Washington state, with high humidity. So I spawned 1 myco quart of BRF cakes into 2 quarts of coco coir on the 12/11. -----AMU - AMU Q & A - MyVideo Teks! Extras: Top: EntheogenicPeace Scholar. If you don’t want to worry about spawning then look into BRF cakes , you just put them into a fruiting chamber . hongowombo • Next step after birthing BRF cakes --> shred to bulk shoebox tek #27294290 - 05/04/21 04:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Last night I followed a tek for coco coir to get my substrate ready. I usually use 3-4 cakes when I use monotub to do bulk. Hello, I have 24 regular old half pint BRF jars colonizing. r/MushroomGrowers is a supportive community of amateurs and professionals from around the world To the OP: G2G is really different the G2coir - the coir is more contam resistant and, well, I understand how you could deduce that they are simliar, If you honestly used a filter disk on every brf cake then count me Just wondering if using spent BRF cakes for a monotub is really that bad. r/unclebens is a beginner-friendly community created by Shroomscout to share the "Ready Rice" technique I spawn between 4-8 BRF cakes to 2-3 qt coir. How to: At home BRF cakes. For more specific substrate info I looked at Bodis' coir prep. I put the damp perlite down, drilled my holes 2” apart So I’m finally starting to get pins on my cakes, however they’re only pinning on the bottom of the cakes. I’ve literally found brf cakes on my dirty carpet after my SGFC was knocked over, they didn’t get contamed. To avoid contamination, work in a clean and sterile environment. what'r the benefits of casing brf cakes after full colonization with coir instead of verm. also the vermiculite/ Coco coir substrate is easy to make. not real sure on this I've read countless threads on debate over shaking BRF cakes. What’s your cake to coir ration? I have BRF cakes about to birth. -To keep costs low I like to take my cakes and crumble them(you need to shred them if you use fine vermiculite). Can I spawn to bulk on 2nd flush, even though I already fruited the cakes for the first flush??? 🍄 Pulled 4 flushes of my cakes and then threw them in some coir and have had 1 successful flush so far of the tub. After, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE *** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** *** I constantly spray my hands down with 70 ISO and let them air dry throughout my spawning process . A friend of mine used 12 cakes to spawn 6 larger cakes of coir/verm/gypsum and 5 out of 6 contaminated and the last one only flushed once. Took 2 months to colonize (but didn't colonize 100%), introduced to fruiting and finally got a lot of big fruits . Less if you count the positioning from So last Saturday (five days ago), I dunked my four BRF cakes in distilled water and left them in the refrigerator for 24 hours. Would this work with brf cakes plus manure? Reply There are 3 cakes buried on top 2" of coir, then covered with an inch or so of coir. I was curious if anyone has ever added a layer coco coir or any other substrate for that matter directly on top of a BRF cake once it has been transferred in to the fruiting chamber? COCO coir directly on top of a BRF cake experiment [Re: Noobgrower321] #26360661 - 12/04/19 09:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) Edit : Reply : hey guys. This creates high humidity inside the tub and allows for adjustable FAE by opening and closing the lid. Edit: dang this thread was old. I recommend 6qt shoebox size tubs with about 2-3 pints of cakes and 2-3 pints of coir per tub. (mix it but don't let any of the cake go all the way to the bottom of the container but don't leave it on the very top. I used a small, clear shoebox, bucket, 200g coir, ~1000ml of water, and 2 cakes. So how much coir would I need for this? Do I need to even bother with Instead of applying a casing layer, spawn your broken up cakes, by either mixing or layering, into a substrate. my first flush was 2oz. They do not seem to have any pins on them, but both cakes have grown super fluffy over the entire cake Step 1: make colonized 4 pf cakes Step 2: Fill half of a container with a substrate of your choice (i like manure) Step 3: break up pf cakes into your substrate evenly. Quote: firstTIMER420 said: Should i spawn the BRF cakes to a pastuerized coir/verm/gypsum mix? Yes! Quote: also, what is the spawn ratio for each tray? 1:2 Quote: do you dunk the cakes before spawning to bulk? No! Dunking is for PF Tek. The more I think about it, the more it seems like adding coir to Anyway, so for 12 jars, maybe try like 2qt verm, shy 1qt water, shy 1qt BRF, 50g coir hydrated with 1/3qt boiling water. TGO #4. They were my last cakes of the batch and I decided to see what would happen as, tbh the cakes I'd fruited weren't really cutting the mustard, although giving me a slow, small ammount of shrooms. Prepare coco coir to field capacity. is coir a better substrate to use for a casing layer on cakes then verm?? I hope my terminology is correct I have 6 BRF cakes I want to break up and add to a coir/verm bulk that is being pasteurized as im typing this. I have lost whole tubs. Then you dunk the cake in water and then place it in a fruiting chamber (Like a monotub fruiting chamber or a shotgun fruiting chamber) where the humidity can be controlled. Dont use the mushroom compost. Spray your workspace with disinfectant and work with Using a cheese grater works very well, super easy and the consistency of brf spawn will mix a lot better then doing it by hand. Leave your cakes to consolidate for a week after they're fully colonized and then use a cheese grater to turn them into tiny pieces. I'm planning on spawning to coco coir for my first grow, I am assuming this will yield more, and possibly larger mushrooms. We use pausterization (steam heat or in the oven for 1-2 hours at 160-180F or even in microwave). But yeah, if you had the equivalent amount of BRF as I have rye/verm/coir, the BRF might give a better yield. From syringes, I'd throwaway the un-colonized part and spread to coir. - Mycotylium This image has a graphic description, please read the photo Bodhisatta This is blue bruising, it's very common and not a contamination. Pasteurized coir, and a bit of misting and fanning. r/MushroomGrowers is a supportive community of amateurs and professionals from around the world Spawn them at a 1:2 ratio, don't exceed 3cm of substrate depth with cakes or they'll be going to waste. If I decide to make a tray with them how do I go about it? Another @VK each method has pros & cons. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Legion. It would be better to just crumble up some brf cakes to some pasteurized coir instead. How long should I dunk them when they are fully colonized?? How long should I dunk my BRF cakes for? Are you spawning your BRF cakes to coir? If so, it'll definetely work, and with better yields too. The same cake can usually be take through three fruiting cycles before it starts to run out of nutrients. The more I think about it, the more it seems like adding coir to To anyone and everyone who only uses coir. com/EasyBreezyGrowsEmail- easybreezygrows@gmail. Find out all about reusing old mycelium cakes here. Step 6. ? i know verm contains water but no nutrients. 6 cups of water (0. you take a 5gal bucket, put a brick of coir and 2-3 qts of verm into it then pour 4qts of hot almost boiling water on it and shut the lid for 30mins, come back and stir it up very well then add your manure to it and cover to cool to room temp. use a 1:2 ratio of 1 part cake and 2 parts coir+verm. So I already bought BRF and jars and had planned to follow BRF cake tek, but I'm getting greedy with yield, while questioning why BRF cake tek is even considered a great first grow. And if you used widemouth jars like you're supposed to, the cake will slide right out with a couple taps on the bottom of the jar. I like to finish with about 1/4 inch top layer of prepped coir. Mush love. im wondering what the best coir based substrate recipe is these days. I would recommend going to pasteurized, shredded coco coir. /Gypsum) but not much more that I could find. I am going to do a comparison between dunking and using a straw to add moisture. 7 grams H2O - 4. Just mix colonized mycelium and bulk sub together. I’m getting coco coir delivered today, so I’m going to try spawning to bulk! You know how many cakes I would have to make to get 4 oz on a first flush? Besides, monotubs are mostly set it and forget it. ive never worked with coco coir. com My Discord- https://discord. Coir works just fine by itself. Just Coco coir, or damions 50/50 bucket tek is a good substrate. What we need: George foreman grill 1/2 pound 85% or better ground beef Steak and burger seasoning Buns Spawning BRF cakes to coir vs Fruiting BRF Cakes . I don't want to make a mini SGFC and the idea of making trays is interesting. Distilled water, 2% Honey and 2% dextrose filled in a jar and just put in an oven at 110°C (230°F). Perfect for beginners. If your not grating BRF cakes into your bulk sub then add the 2 cups verm Gentlemen, I have a bunch of BRF cakes, but I don't feel like setting up my SGFC again. Let your cakes colonize to 100%, use a cheese grater to grate cakes up, mix with pastuerize coir, If you cannot make and inoculate 12 BRF cakes under sterile conditions you have almost no hope of doing the same with grain jars. There is nothing ground breaking here just a Making BRF cakes is a beginner’s cheapest, most accessible method of growing mushrooms. I mean it is well known that putting pf cakes to coir/verm doesn't really increase their yields, cronicr' swords not mine -----Intentionally or not, here in I say, birth, roll in coir and fruit in water tub - shredding and spawning May produce more fruits but it will take longer as the mycelium needs to recover and colonize more substrate. This article represent the BRF (Brown Rice Flour) tek, also known as PF tek, this tek is specially created for growing Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, although it may work for similar mushrooms in the Psilocybe genus like Psilocybe mexicana. Came to this great forum and did A LOT of reading Where I live vermiculite costs much more than Coco coir so I make BRF cakes with coir instead of verm. There is nothing ground breaking here just a grow along from start to finish. Ultimately decision is yours. Since you have bulksubs that are doing good i dont see the point of doing brf cakes in the future. However, it can also be used in garden beds as an alternative to peat moss. Enjoy the benefits of our locally made and sourced BRF Cakes: Ready to use, which saves time and effort compared to preparing the substrate from scratch. First pic was pf 5 pf cakes spawned to 10 250ml jars of manure. so i need advice, im going to boil it It's my first go with spawning BRF cakes to pasteurized coir and I am kinda unsure right now about how it's all going. I was already leaning towards doing the humidity chamber thing with coir, and you’ve confirmed my suspicions about their ease of use and low maintenance vs a SGFC, so I think that’s what I’m going to do. Then treat it as any other bulk grow. Plus you will already have some verm from the cakes. but coir holds MORE water and has nutrients. Edited by Anno (06/15/03 04:08 PM) Extras: Top Quote: SteveRogers said: Quote: moehd said: because i dont have enough room to set up a full tray growing champer all i have is a small closet with a small f. I used 2:1 coir/verm and one cake per tray (two other trays are producing lesser ammounts, but still good). The procedure and ratios are the same as with regular PF Tek BRF cakes, The only difference is I mix the BRF with hydrated coir instead of hydrated verm. BACK TO TOP <-Click This was a sorghum grain jar contaminated with mold, probably Dactylium(cobweb) note to clear difference in healthy white mycelium with mold mycelium. just shred the cakes by hand or with a cheese grater. At this point, many growers will simply discard them, thinking them dead. Make sure to wash your hands thoroughly and wear gloves, a mask, and a hairnet. Mix well. I'm curious if anybody has experimented with this. In mushroom cultivation, brown rice flour is often mixed with other materials such as vermiculite, coco coir, I made twelve 1/2 pint wide mouthed BRF cakes 2 cups verm, 1 cup brown rice flour, 1 tablespoon gypsum, and 1 cup water And if you prep coir in a bucket, there's no need to fill jars with a certain weight to sterilize. BRF to Bulk! Cheese grate 4 half pint cakes (equals to 1qt spawn) into a plastic shoebox. 5ml Small 7w 40L or 60L 50-75g Dutch Style 20ml PF Tek substrate ready for spawning your favourite species. I have some coco coir, and some vermiculite, four shoebox-size plastic containers, and a much larger 15 gallon plastic container. PE brf cakes not fruiting? #27054772 - 11/23/20 11:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: Hellllo!! After the dunk you want to coat the cakes fully in a verm layer again, preferably coat the cakes in somewhat moist verm or coir, Hi! I did break up the BRF, spread it around and then cased it so there was no exposed BRF. Extras: Top: Tormato I'm looking forward to see perfectly prepped BRF cakes with verm layer fruited inside these chambers in the future from other growers! Brf cake to coco coir shoebox. Registered: 10/08/18 Posts My goal is to show from start to finish the entire process of making 6 brf cakes and spawning to bulk using coir inside a 6qt shoebox. (Broke boi tek) simple and easy without a presure cooker. Inverted lid on top with micropore taped holes. Then you mix this with your normal cvg mixture from the bucket coir tek in whatever tub you plan on using. I have 12 half pint BRF cakes, most of which are fully colonized and ready to birth. Actives The fuzz like this showed up pretty immediately after going in the box, a week and a half ago. Wait overnight or until it is cool enough to handle. Does myc ever 'leap off' the cake and grow into the coir? -----Making Liquid Culture: Go insane with LC Mushboy likes these teks: Making shroom tea Dank Education. 9 qts) 🔴 Gypsum provides looseness (particle separation) to reduce soil compaction and increase drainage, aeration in soils. then once it colonizes, it would be a huge tub/cake. gg/Qa I haven't tried spawning cakes to straight coir yet, I think I'll do that this time around. Yeah, you have to do some air exchange and the occasional mist, but in my opinion, it's easier. should i use coffe? any other addatives that i should use? or should i stick with the coir and verm basic substrate? If you are going to spawn a BRF cake to bulk, (i'm planning to use coco coir) do you break up the cakes or just put them whole in the coir? Thanks. It works, but I'd reccomend using a fresh cake instead. Hey every, i grew using the brf cakes method and it worked great, now I want to do monotub's, Quote: use a cheese grater if you have one to "break" up the cake. ----- r u askin if you could make a tub and it just be a huge brf jar? i think u would run into complications innoculating, sterilizing, etc. Don't forget to share your results, please ;) Casing isn't nutritious, so sterilization isn't necessary. 5, at least no more substrate than a 1:3 spawn ratio. I was going to stick with the classic shotgun fruiting chamber, but realized that is not 1) Cakes fruited as cakes are better if quicker yield is your objective. The easiest temp for me to have them at is about 65-69F. Also known as BRF CAKES. Also, multiple cakes minimize the risk of contamination, so successful cakes can be diluted later if you prefer bulk growing as described SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE Birthed 303K subscribers in the unclebens community. 2. Also I normally grate two 1/2 pint BRF cakes into my coir bulk sub so I don't use the verm as each cake is 50% verm anyway. im looking to spawn all my brf cakes to some coir. 2) if this is your first grow, you should probably spawn cakes to a coir/verm mix for a better opportunity for success (less contam possibility). Also, keep humidity between 90-95%, the movement of moisture from the cakes into the environment initiate fruiting. I’ve been doing this for about a year now and Ive done UB tek, broke boi, popcorn, and I’m just getting into agar, but every time I s2b Ive mixed my grains with coco coir, wait for colonization, flip the lid, harvest fruits, dunk, repeat. it baffles me. any other questions pm me and This document describes a humidity chamber technique for fruiting BRF cakes. BRF cakes, I just finished 1ft flush, heading for 2nd dunk. cubensis) to experiment with. 8 cups vermiculite - 1 1/3 cups gypsum (calcium carbonate) - 1/3 cup cocoa coir - 66. Pictures show example setups and fruits grown with this technique requiring I put the cake in to fruit about 2 days after 100% colonization and im fanning the chamber about once every 12 hours. I was thinking of shredding them and mixing them with coco fibre for a small monotub for a Birth and spawn them directly to the coir Extras: Top: newtomyc enthusiast Registered: 12/24/18 Posts: 1,038 Loc: here there and e verywhere Last seen: 1 year, 4 months Re: Shred BRF cakes to Yeah, I’ve been reading Shroomery religiously, which is part of the reason I was feeling a little overwhelmed with all the tek options. Reading up on it, it says that coir holds moisture better and wards off bacteria and mold. Because you're dunking, more food then Vermont and holds a fuck ton of water to boot but Verm is lighter giving the cake a better texture as coir cakes can be pretty dense I put some BRF cakes to pasteurized coco coir in a Tupperware 4 days ago and just wondering how long it takes to show some colonization at the surface. Will crumbled brf work as a substrate for colonizing the coir? Or should I stick to grains and let your cakes colonize (wait one week if your fruiting the cake, if your crumbling dont wait) crumble to this tek coir tek wait for it to colonize (10-12 days) then put into fruiting cond. It's just that I made a lot of cakes, Burying BRF-Cakes in Coir #28221676 - 03/09/23 01:14 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: For 1 qt spawn jar (shoebox tek, small mushroom cakes, bottle-tek): 130g coco coir (1/5 coco brick), 1. Using a brf cake as spawn to inoculate a bulk substrate to fruit mushrooms from. Reply reply Cuz1 BRF Cakes usually provide 2 to 3 flushes of mushrooms. I crumbled it into a loaf pan full of coir, and it did colonize the coir, and did give some (really pathetic) fruits. A healthy cake is capable of giving a lot, but at some point, they become spent and can’t produce anymore mushrooms. Basically I have 12 brf cakes in pint-sized wide-mouthed jars that are all 3/4 the way colonized and have been consolidated in the middle for a week now. I think I'll stick to cakes with BRF and just exclusively use grains (most likely oat tek) for bulk. Most people who cultivate magic mushrooms at home use mycelium cakes to produce their mushrooms. I'm sure some of you have definitive answers on this. I've never liked anything other than occasionally vermiculite in my coir. But not spawning to bulk is not the way brother. Shred your cake. just to keep it simple you can use manure and coir but you also need vermiculite for water retention. Thanks for all the Basically followed your typical brf cake tek to the T but with twelve 1/4 pint jars -inoculated with mss on 11/13 -birthed and dunked fully colonized jars on 12/5 -cheese grated 6 jars Support me on Patreon for as little as $1 a month!- https://www. 5qt tub) Buying our Ready to use PF Tek BRF Cakes for mushroom growing is a convenient and cost-effective way to get started with mushroom cultivation and can increase the chances of successful mushroom growth. 10L Coir Brick With the PF tek, your BRF (Brown rice flour) cakes will compact a little bit. BRF is resistant to bacterial blooms due to the way the granular structure holds water and prevents spreading. Using gloves, mix with coco coir using a ratio of 2:1 coco coir to substrate. Got 1oz and abit dry. maybe u could PC like a gallon of pftek substrate, empty into a tub, and then add grain spawn, or crumbled cakes. Super quick, i cant seem to find the info I’m looking for so 🤞 you guys and gals can help! I have 2 BRF cakes soaking. 5 grams cococoir brick (1/4 brick) Half quart verm 4 1/2 pint brf jars (I used 3) Bucket tek the boiling water, coir and verm, mix well after half hour or hour. I have 2 cakes that are ready and dunking right now. I started adding very diluted coffee to all of my BRF cakes and about a tbsp of gypsum to the BRF. His cakes on the other hand are on Contamination is a common issue when transferring BRF cakes to bulk substrate. Extras: Top: icetech Registered: 08/21/17 Posts: 3,450 295K subscribers in the MushroomGrowers community. It takes longer since the mycelium has to take over all the coir, but once it started it just wouldn't quit. I’ve heard that sterilising it in a pressure cooker kills of all the ‘important’ bacteria (might be bullshit, idk). that is all your prepped bulk substr Coir, vermiculite, BRF, and straw pellets are far less susceptible to mold and bacterial blooms due to the manufacturing process that produces them. 5 quarts of coir on my first grow along side 6 cakes in a humidity chamber and the cakes spawned to bulk definitely put out a better yield and the bulk sub was easier to take care of in my opinion. It is an indicator that the cake Since I already have BRF cakes, the first is out for this batch, The coir and straw produces weaker fruits consistently for myself, so I abandoned them. Your sub will have enough moisture. BRF to bulk is crazy easy. When I remembered it, it was a poor dried out thing. It will colonize fastest if you evenly spread and mix the spawn im going to submerge one of my brf cakes a little early into some coco coir. Biodegrader of coir Registered: 01/29/08 Posts: 2,588 Loc: Canada Last seen: 7 years, 3 You said you've done BRF before, so take your average yield per cake per flush in grams and divide 300 by that. r/MushroomGrowers is a supportive community of amateurs and professionals BRF cakes are going very well, for my first time doing this. I haven't heard of anybody using crumbled brf cakes. Three of which were 100% colonized and consolidated 3 were at around 90% and I cut off any uncolonized areas (they didn't want to colonize fully so I just spawned them). on 2nd now. Do you have BRF mix in those jars? Skip the coffee, it will not benefit your grow at this point it will just create another vector for contamination that you dont need, spawn to coir So I’ve followed all the steps for growing out my BRF cakes, birthed them 10 days ago to a SGFC and still no signs of pins or even knots. I know I know, we're doing bulk now, and I am too. I’ve got 4 BRF cakes currently colonizing. But you can break them up when you spawn them and just mix it with coir. My goal is to show from start to finish the entire process of making 6 brf cakes and spawning to bulk using coir inside a 6qt shoebox. I like to split my cakes if possible, but if your cakes are fully colonized, and clean when birthed,they should colonized the sub faster than any contamination can get in. Making brf cakes & putting them in a shotgun fruiting chamber, is the most tried & true method of growing mushrooms, the most beginner friendly in my opinion also. Extras: Top: LtLurker Lost Sailor Registered: 01/03/18 So I am doing a monotub this time around with a Coco Coir and Vermiculite mix, but I have some BRF left over from my last PF tek. maxynavtiurwaqhxsesarjvfxlhazqxskrnlzhxjtvjcxhbpvndbu