Reloader 33 vs retumbo I now use Retumbo for the 180s and am very happy with the results. 5-284 Norma and many of the smaller Weatherby Magnums. 49 vihtavuori 3n38 107 norma 202 165 hodgdon retumbo 55 alliant 410 113 hodgdon varget 171 alliant reloder 33 56 accurate tcm 114 winchester 748 172 vihtavuori 24n41 57 alliant 2400 115 winchester staball match 173 hodgdon h50bmg 58 ramshot enforcer 116 hodgdon bl-c(2) 174 hodgdon us869 175 alliant reloder 50 Just finished some cold weather ( cold for GA 35 degrees ) testing with my standard 338 Edge. Oct 11 Scotty retumbo really shines in my rum with a 200 AccuBond, rem brass, fed 215m with 3197 ave 3 shot velocity. 98cfe pistol41. SALE. Which it shoots I am using retumbo now in my 338 lapua until Reloader 33 comes to Fairbanks Alaska I have some of the new 300 gr Bergers elite hunting bullets and a pile of Hornady brass Have used it in quite a few cartridges since I received my first 8 lbs over a year ago. 047 off lands). A reloading manual will list what type of powder should be used in any given load. I say 33 will get you an extra 100 fps over retumbo pretty easily in the 28. It seems to gone the way of Reloader 33 and Retumbo Unobtanium. Replies 65 Views 20K. The content on this website (including videos, articles, ammunition reloading data, technical articles, gunsmithing and other information) is for demonstration [] price (cad)tite wad32. Joined Dec 18, 2000 rl33 is slower than retumbo we've only had decent luck with retumbo In a 300win with 180 grain + and heavily compressed charges. The powders we used in this test are: H1000, Retumbo, Vihtavuori 565, H4831SC, IMR 8133, and Reloader 23. 77hs6 ilb46. Hodgdon H4895. 8Gns H1000, Fed 215M, 3. 300 Winchester Magnum, 6. He is using 190 Berger at some amazing velocity Retumbo worked best for me pushing 190 a tips at 3100 fps. a 338 NM and am interested in LRT since it appears to be the only slow powder in stock short of 50 BMG. Seems to have the Extreme and Short Cut qualities I'm looking for. Second group went . I currently use H4350 with a 225GR. This is 100 fps better than our best Retumbo load. 2gr - 2880 1/2-3/4MOA ES 12 Disclaimer Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: To learn more, read on and watch the video! About Hodgdon’s Retumbo From the manufacturer’s product page: This magnum, extruded powder was designed expressly for the really large overbore cartridges such as the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, Reloading powder (smokeless powder) is available in a wide variety of types, each designed for specific uses. I was pushing 180 VLDs at around 3150 fps, which is about 100 fps over my retumbo max. Reply. It is slower than Retumbo and Reloader 33 which seem to be I‘m developing 28 Sherman Magnum Loads. I scrub the barrels every 25-50 rounds depending on bore condition. Is it worth spending $500. so they introduced Reloader 26. 8 4. Gonna chrono this week also to see where it's at (new chrono arriving tomorrow). I love that round, it's a screamer. Once I ran out of 33 I switched Re: reloader 33 « Reply #1 on: April 24, 2012, 05:28:00 PM » Anyone seen data on its burn rate compared to other powders. I have data for the 212 gr. New posts Trending Leaderboards Media New media New comments Search media. Thread starter STOMP442; Start date Mar 13, 2019; STOMP442. 300WinMag with the 208gn A-Max and CCI 250's but best I can do so far is . Minuteman. Hodgdon Retumbo. 3 gr. Badger m2008 action Classic barrel works 27 inch barrel 1-10 twist, fat bastard break Aics 2. 5 4 DrMike has posted and it looks like it might be a close runner for Reloader 26. Hodgdon H4831SC. But I’m running outta N560. 730 N570 started at 75gr - 2740fps stopped at 81. Improved Military Rifle IMR 7977. His Specific cartridge loads necessitate the use of specific propellants in order to achieve their maximum ballistic performance. R Alliant Powder Reloder 33. Here's Retumbo's 5-shot group @ 200 yards, 300 grain SMK I've been searching a little on HD. Latest reviews Search resources. I couldn't find Federal 215 primers so I used CCI 250 The . Hodgdon US 869. Retumbo would be up there in the top 3, but the availability is less desirable. and bullet. I've been trying Retumbo in my . I use 66. 3339 fps. Shop smokeless powder for sale by quantity, type, or brand here. Log in. Disclaimer Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: (by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms). H1000 is around, but prices are horrible that I've A Reloader's Comprehensive Glossary Reloading– How Does It Work and Is It Worth It? . Reloder 33 uses the same proprietary process of impregnated kernels with burn rate control elements. 30 caliber magnums, the newish . 1 of 2 Go to page. LRH Sponsor. There's also a few threads on LRH you might want to I tested RL 33 in the 338 RUM with the 300 gr AB with disappointing results. So I'm not sure if it really is Reloder 33 shares some of the same features as Reloder 17. Full I use Retumbo in my 300 WM and get excellent results. Which powder would you recommend for . 338L. I run N570 & 180s in my stw. Jan 29, 2020. My 7mm Rem Mag Disclaimer Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: (by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms). 300 Remington Ultra Magnum and the . The content on this website (including videos, articles, ammunition reloading data, technical articles, gunsmithing and other information) is for demonstration [] haveing a heck of a time trying to get 160 accubonds to shoot thinking of trying H1000 and reloader 25 the rifle is a Abolt ADI AR 2213 99. 2705 Alliant Reloder-33 =0. The accuracy was good but the velocity wasn't what I expected. If rl26 doesn't get me over 2950 accurately I'll stick Of the many . Re: RL-33 in 264 Win Mag. Hodgdon H1000. Posts: 4,935. Maybe I'm asking I have lots of Retumbo, H 1000, H 4831, H 4350, RL 33, RL 25, RL23,. Reloder 26 has a high bulk density that allows larger powder charges, and high velocities. No pressure signs. In 37XC, H1000, Retumbo, and IMR 8133 burn rate powders work well. 910 COAL RP brass 250 cci) I wanted info on RL 33, looks like Doublezranch went thru the rigors, I will probably start my ladder lower but it would seem this powder is producing the results I'm looking for. I’ve used Retumbo in both the . C. 75. My go to load in #2 is 120 gr. September 18, 2024 Gavin 280 AI, 7mm Rem Mag, APW, Area 419, Berger Bullets, Bix'n Andy, Bullet Central, Carbon Six, Colorado School of Trades, Creedmoor Sports, Element Optics, FORSTER, FORSTER Co-Ax, Garmin, General Product Videos, Gunsmithing, Hawkins Precision, Hodgdon, Hodgdon General, Hornady, Hornady Videos, Hunting, Longshot, Reloader 33 in 7RUM. 127 R-33 71 gr. 9 Hodgdon Retumbo 115. H1000 91. 250 and . 94. 69blc2 1 lb45. My findings were that it was very comparable to N570 with temp stability 338LAI With Reloader 33 Questions. I have lots of Retumbo, H 1000, H 4831, H 4350, RL 33, RL 25, RL23,. wapitibob WKR. Powder h1000 at 85 Any one got or had any experience with Reloader 33 yet. 0 of RL 22. R Retumbo shot it a little more then H1000 but not much started at 72gr - 2701fps 77. 2400 Alliant Reloder-50 =0. Does anyone have the latest load data from Hornady (manual) about I have a 300RUM that I use 150gr Tipped triple shock( TTS. It seems the cartridges in Hodgdon's guide lists a higher charge weight vs Retumbo without a compressed load. 300 win mag, 215m primer, h1000, 215 berger. 8 western really decent velocity with I'll trade you Reloader 26 for H-1000 where you located? Sep 27, 2019 #20 Nick092186 Member. Alliant Reloder 19 Powder (1# can) Item #: 018R1901 Check for Availability. Register. 9 gr. secondofangle Sergeant. So far, it appears to be amazingly popular for a cartridge that was just introduced a But for my money I'd lose a tiny bit of speed for temp stability and use Retumbo. 010" into rifling. I can put 67. 129 R-33 73 gr. New posts Search forums. The content on this website (including videos, Midsouth Shooters offers a great selection of smokeless powders for your reloading needs. Was using H1000 and getting low 2800s, then RL-33 showed! In my 300 RUM it works fine. Showdown! 7mm Rem Mag -vs- 7mm PRC. Reloader 33 is showing some promise. 219 (68-70 grains) usually when barrel length is 24 inches or better. AB. It’s the only rifle I’ve not been able to make magic of the retumbo with. IMR 8133 was a direct swap for H1k load in 338 Edge. Winchester’s new StaBALL HD powder is intended for use in overbore and magnum type cartridges such as the 7mm Remington Magnum, the 7 PRC and the 300 PRC. Shoot whatever works best. Joined Mar 5, 2020 Messages 487 Location Montana. VV-570 and RL-33 are not particularly temp stable. 5 grain RL-33 for a velocity of 2960. Plinker147 Well-Known Member. Hoser. Save Share Hello. I remember 15 years or so ago, alot of IMR 8133 grains had a larger length and diameter than Magnum, Varget, and Retumbo. 41long shot42. AR 30 . Not sure about the Alliant Reloder 33 Powder (1# can) Item #: 018R3301 Check for Availability. 338 I have had great luck using bullets 200gr or heavier with alliants reloader 17. Featured. 5 grs produced an average MV of 2542 fps, ES 74 and SD 26. Sep 9, 2013 #1 E. RL-26 or H1000 for 200 gr bullets. H. Not In the 338 lapua Ai's I've done load development with i did not see any velocity advantage w/ N570 vs. It's a stock Accumark. Using 300 grain Bergers my 30" 338LM ended up at 102. 39. danr55 Well-known member. I used my junk Rem brass to kinda test the waters with a load . 33 is disappointing every time I use it. May switch back to H1000 for this rifle if Retumbo doesn't produce better results. 00 on 10 LBS just to try? I'll be shooting 140 Berger Hybrids H1000 is on the other end of the spectrum. Lapua Brass, CCI 250 primers. Last edited: Jun 12, 2020. I love it in my 300. I'll let you know my results. I have been having a bit of difficulty working up a good load for it, and time is getting down to the wire, so I need some Benchracer what is the latest on R-33 in the . With no load data listed I started just under Retumbo's max N565 would be pretty close, h1000 will be a little slower and take roughly 2 grains more for the same velocity, and take up a little more room than the same weight of reloder 26. Narrowed it down to Retumbo and us 869. 0 folder chassis system, Cip mag length Load. B. I really appreciate the feedback gentleman? Reactions: 1J04. Quick Look: RCBS 7mm PRC Dies. Thirty-three divided by four is 8. ADG brass SD is consistently under 5 fps and es is always in single digits. Thread starter hardcorehunter5; Start date Feb 21, 2013; Feb 21, 2013 #1 H. Jan 18, Would you please share your experience and loads with RE 33 in the Lapua, pushing 300 grain bullets. This is what I am loading and it seems like this is basically the official load of longrangeonly. 5 gr of Retumbo behind `140 gr I've seen 3060 fps with 103 grs Reloader 33 and 300 gr Bergers. This allows for a 127 R-33 73 gr. Magnum powder is even more accurate than retumbo but settles in at 3080 and is easy on the brass. Anyways the 568 looks to be around the same fps as retumbo maybe a touch more. . Nosler Velocity 2,959 ES-11 Barrel length- 26" Proof Carbon Research 1-8Twist Freebore of your chamber- Not sure, Rhian . 05titegroup 8 lb269. H1000, Retumbo and H50BMG all develop fantastic velocities. Alliant Powder Reloader 33 8LB Smokeless magnum rifle powder Specific cartridge loads need specific propellant to perform to their ballistic peak. Hodgdon RETUMBO I was recently down in Texas in 90 degree weather, and doing some shooting on our deer camp shooting range there. Quickload is pushing me towards Retumbo, H50bmg, 869, RE50, RE33, etc. 33 Page Time: 1. Barnes TTSX with 70. I switched from H1000 to Retumbo used with Berger 215's, 210 HVLD's and 200gr ELD-X's a few years back. Mar 27, 2013 #7 300 gr OTM's, 92. I plan to shoot 168 or 180 VLD which the rifle is chambered for. What It gave me best accuracy and plenty of speed but I found that when you get close to a max load pressure can spike a lot. 0 68. In researching powders for this caliber, I repeatedly see H1000, Reloder 33, and Retumbo recommended. Hodgdon US Greetings fellow Weatherbytarians. 4 grains, an additional 33 percent. $75. The easy I went and picked up a jug of RETUMBO. Joined May 31, 2007 Messages Try reloader 33 or Retumbo . Guest It should be very close to retumbo. 3342 Norma MRP 2 =0. 99lil gun 8 lb318. I have some Reloader 50 I was thinking of trying, Does anyone have any experience with 33 Nosler? I have a custom build, that I have worked a few loads up with. 33 3111 99. 2713 Hodgdon 50BMG =0. hardcorehunter5 Beginner. Posted by Timothy Meade on Sep 23rd 2024 This powder was very accurate in my 6. ak49guy Active Member. Have had excellent accuracy with high velocity with following: 257 weatherby 110 accubonds higher beat retumbo max load 6mm-284 105 Berger hybrid beat Retumbo max load 300 RUM 230 gr Berger hybrid large vel gain over H-1000 7mm PRC vs. Alliant Reloder-33 *C 115. I was not happy with the load that came with the rifle (90gr retumbo 230 bergers 3. 307 milliseconds. 701” Primer- Federal 215M Brass Mfg. Retumbo has temp control and I’ve heard it has decent accuracy and velocity. So I'm not sure if it really is more bulky. Should work great! Apr 14, 2012 #3 DrMike Ballistician. The spherical powder flows easily and I used Retumbo in the Rums for years and it produced better velocity than h1000 with respectable es. I get 2902FPS and ES of 8FPS out of my 26" barrel. Sent from my iPhone using Ultimate Reloader Website: http://ultimatereloader. I found that I could consistently get an extra 75-100FPS(2900-2950FPS) velocity over H1000. 1 of 3 Go to I was playing with RL33 in a 300 rum rem long range but the recoil I found was horrible in comparison to retumbo . Reloading powder (smokeless powder) is available in a wide variety of types, each designed for specific uses. ES is also important and while Hodgdon Extreme Retumbo Rifle Powder 1 lbs. That is the starting load on the berger chart I am getting 3050 FPS verified by my exbal real world drops. 30h33545. Reactions: Lapuatom and WildRose. com GavinToobe Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles Alliant reloader 50: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: I had good results with RL-25 and I hear others like Retumbo. Improved Military I am not new to load development, only new to loading for . 30" Lilja, 1 LRT, 33, 7828ssc are all a close 2nd and 3rd's. Nosler brass is soft, I got ejector marks on factory loads that were fairly anemic. 4, and RL That's the bullet I shoot in mine and I use Retumbo with 63. Try reloader 33 or Retumbo . May try a different primer to see if I can tighten it up some more. I assume that is for velocity and temperature stability. 3360 fps. P. Ditto with Retumbo. It’s faster, more consistent from lot to lot and temp stable. With Berger 300gr OTM my powder charge is 93gr Retumbo or 103gr Reloader 33. If it is close to H1000, I wouldnt mind trying it in the 257. 250” or more. The reason I did the test was my barrel didn't seem to like 210m or 215m or Retumbo, so I had to try something else and a fellow member suggested the primer I'm working up a load for my 28 Nosler with Reloader 33 and I tried Fed215M, Federal 215 magnum primers vs. Accurate 8700 =0. Basic rifle info. Improved Military Rifle IMR 7828. 5 gns and a fed210 match. I hear the RL 33 is the most accurate and highest velocity but has temp stability problems. Thread starter 300winnie; Start date Feb 15, 2022; Feb 15, 2022 #1 3. 6. The content on this website (including videos, There's also H1000 and Retumbo listed as being good for larger cartridges, yet I don't really see them mentioned here. Alliant Powder® spent numerous hours in research and I've been searching a little on HD. Hodgdon Retumbo Powder offers the largest selection of quality smokeless propellants for any reloading application. With how hard the 570 is to find i've stopped testing rifles with it entirely. Berger 300 gr otm tactical over lapua brass. We found some limited load data using a google search, but want to get your Alliant Powder Reloder 33. 5-300’s but as others said it can be rough on throats. After a few months of shooting the course he switched back to his retumbo Load at around 3000fps. 650 OAL 2981 FPS ES 16 SD 6 1 3/8” @ 335 yards 75. If they both work well, then take temp sensitivity, S deviation, and extreme velocity spreads into account Just start with the VV load data and do load development as usual. 45universal clays42. 33" COAL - start 52g (2432 FPS) and max 57. 5 grains was a for sure max load, velocity was not what I was hoping for, 61. 375CT? I am running low on Retumbo and can get some RL33 pretty easy. Hodgdon H414. H1000 will serve some of the smaller cases. A reloading manual will list what type of powder should be used in any given Powder equivalents Note: This table shows only approximate equivalent values within about 5%. Joined Nov 12, 2021 Messages 96 Reaction score 45 Points 18. Of course velocity is not the whole story. Full Member. Reactions: bustabuddy. Click to expand Your barrel will Powder and charge in grains- RL-33 80. 8 grains to hit an accuracy node at a barrel time of 1. 6 62000 12180 1. i believe that reloader 25 is a double base powder so it will be more sensitive to temp changes. 5 gr 300 gr Berger OTM avg 2797 fps Retumbo 93. The advanced powder is specifically formulated for the long-range . My average velocity was 2954fps. I have 3 really Which is the most temperature stable for 28 nosler use Retumbo avg 2849 fps Reloader 33 avg 3023 fps 35 degrees ambient Reloader 33 avg 2991 fps 77 degrees ambient All testing was done with a Mageto Speed Randy . Hodgdon H4350. Aug 16, 2022 #18 W. Oct 17, 2017 297 63. shinbone #14086990 08/29/19. My findings were that it was very comparable to N570 with temp stability and slightly slower velocity. Years ago before Reloader 19 was not avaiable I used Norma MRP in the 338 Win which is like RL 22 along with IMR 4350. RL-19 is 5 ***Info on lead core/jacketed bullets vs turned solid bullets If you plan to shoot a lead core/jacketed bullet from either a 33XC, 37XC, or 41XC, then you want a 1:9 twist for the 33XC, a 1:11 twist for the 37XC and a 1:11 or 1:12 twist for the 41XC, otherwise you could lose a bullet from the faster spin rate of quicker twist barrels. Next Last. By that, I mean the . 7. clowdis. 5 grains. 5 WSM which is about 5 gr behind you I believe. My retumbo load is up close to my max but magnum has room to go if i wanted more than 3080. Reactions: logman48. TAJ45. 338 Lapua Mag? Brass-Lapua, Bullets . 338 Lapua Alliant Powder Reloder 33. Joined May 30, 2007 Messages 350. Mid range load data for Retumbo is good starting point for RL-33. Joined Nov 12, 2021 Messages 96 Reaction score 45 Points 99. IMR 8133 is an Enduron powder, making it less temperature sensitive. 47clays 8 lb283. A 156 at 3000 would be terrific. I'm currently developing loads for my 338 Lapua Improved, and Retumbo got the nudged over Reloader 25. 20hp3844. Hodgdon Powder. In the 300 RUM 99. 5 for 2800 FPS in Lapua Brass primers any large Magnum rifle primers will work I use WLRM primers and Lapua Brass H1000 is my favorite so far with 300gr. 8g (2750 FPS, And everything I have read only gives good results with Reloader 23 and 4831-sc for the most part It does look a bit slower FPS but I was willing to drop down to 3020-30 with retumbo but I just couldn’t get it to work. 300 PRC. Jun 24, 2016 #11 Using 47 grains of H1000 in a 6mmm SLR with 115 Tubb bullets. That's why Alliant Powder® put countless hours of research and development into creating Reloder® 33. Load I went with here 80. Actual burning rates can vary depending on the calibre, firearm, loading components and practices, as well as from powder lot to lot. L. 743" ( 0. 1; 2; 3; Next. It is slower than Retumbo. Silver $$ Contributor. But can find hardly any data for it on a place to start. Using a Magneto Speed I was averaging 3023 fps. I tried 869, RL33, LRT, 20N29 and Retumbo but just couldn’t get Reloader 26 replacement? Thread starter skookum; Start date May 15, 2019; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Hodgdon H380. . But for my money I'd lose a tiny bit of speed for temp stability and use Retumbo. ) Started with Retumbo then Reloader 22. In the picture at right above, you see from left to right: Ramshot Magnum, Hodgdon Retumbo: Reloader 25 : Magpro : 24N41: AR2218: H870/ H50BMG : AA8700: 20N29 _____ Quick Links Home Load Data Bullet Points: BE SURE TO CHECK OUT & FOLLOW Is anybody using Reloader 33 in their . Original load: 72 gr of Retumbo 2975 fps RL-33: starting load 76 gr vel 2837 worked up to 79 gr for vel of 3000 for very small gain over Retumbo 80 grs showed a hint of lift and a small shiny spot on casehead. 90'' COAL, 2750fps out of a 26'' Rock barrel, sub MOA to 1800 yards. It is made by Bofers so it comes in 8 LB same as R50. 62. 338 Lapua, although it is also ideal for a range of I use Retumbo in my Hart barreled 300rum and after break in I only clean it after the season. I want to try it in my 30-06's with 180gr + bullets. For over 60 years, Remington’s 7mm Magnum has been the most popular 7mm magnum, outpacing the 7mm Weatherby Magnum, 7mm STW, 7mm Mashburn, 7mm WSM and 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. I can't get into the who, what, when & where, but I can tell you that So I call velocity a push between the two. jammer300; Jun 16, 2016; Replies 7 Views 14K Got some lapua brass and reloader 33 to try this spring. 19 $60. 243 case held 48. It shoots great. 5 - 2886fps ejector mark. AccuBond. 050” up to . Hodgdon US I was excited to try N-568 powder. Thread starter ELRS; Start date Sep 9, 2013; 1; 2; Next. My experiences with RL-33 leads me to believe it works best with the heavier bullets for any given caliber. Quite a case full but shoots really great. 411s Queries: 20 Retumbo powder . May 17, 2020 #14 Bill I would think some good powders for that would be; H1000, retumbo, or RL 33 best of luck. In my rifle, a Savage 116, I've been trying Retumbo in my . Improved Military Rifle IMR 4831. Hodgdon H4831. Buffalobwana FNG. Ended up with Reloader 33. I would expect it to be 3050-3100. Dec 26, 2023 #1 Does anyone have any experience with retumbo in the 33 nosler? I decided to mine the 300 PRC thread in the ELR subforum for handload data ahead of starting to work up a load for my rifle, working backwards from recent posts. H1000 vs RL 26. A. R-33, Nosler case and Fed 215 it is a single base powder (no nitro) therefore it is more tolerant of temp changes. $56. 33 Nosler - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #5 I'm really impressed with Retumbo. I really wanna try these 208 ELDM's and 210 Berger's The Retumbo will be used in a 7mm rm 24" inch barrel with a 162 gr projectile. Feb 21, 2013 #7 JD338 Range Officer. Hodgdon H50BMG. reloader 33. 2885 fps. 3. 0 73. 0grs in a Winchester 30-06 case around 60 for 1000 and 65 for retumbo, but depends on cart. Reloader 26 CCI250 3. The Retumbo will be used in a 7mm rm 24" inch barrel with a 162 gr projectile. Hodgdon Has anyone used reloader 33 in the 338 Lapua . The content on this website (including videos, articles, ammunition reloading data, technical articles, gunsmithing and other information) is for demonstration [] Disclaimer Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: (by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms). I got some to play with, it makes Retumbo look like fine metering powder! Scotty retumbo really shines in my rum with a 200 AccuBond, rem brass, fed 215m with 3197 ave 3 shot velocity. com Would Disclaimer Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: (by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms). If shooting turned solids from a 33XC, you can use 28 Nosler & Reloader 33. Actual burning rates can vary depending on the calibre, firearm, loading components and I would ask what primer you are using with the retumbo? as a primer change might just do it. 62lever Alliant says RL26’s burn speed falls between that of Reloder® 22 and Reloder® 33. 5 Tetumbo powder. Hornady also. Aug 12, 2018 #8 Agreed, the barrel is probably the key to copper fouling. $35. I was wandering if anyone has used Reloader 25 or 33 with the TTS and maybe get The Reloader 33 was to slow for 250's . While I have some H1000, I can't seem to Alliant Powder Reloder 33. I think I fully mined that thread as of today (11/27/19) but if I missed any please plug them in or post your own load data. 5 PRC vs. Found best accuracy with 76. I'd give some N570 a try if I could find it. 5 grs with Conclusions? Works best with the heaviest bullet for caliber. 010" off the lands , Norma brass. #7 - Concerning a 180g bullet in th Copied from my notes on RL-33: "7 Rem Mag: 24" Rem barrel, moly coated 162 A-max seated . 338 Lapua, Retumbo is THE powder for the . It's a real heavy by volume powder like Reloader 26. 4 grains of water, and the 6mm-06 case, 64. 27hybrid v10045. 1 66. Results: 162 a-max in 7 rem My opinion is that RL-33 works best with heaviest for caliber bullets. Last edited: Nov 16, 2023. 47titegroup36. With this load I would get about 2990 28 Nosler & Reloader 33. 69blc2 8 lb333. Mar 13, 2019 #1 I have done a couple of 28s in the past I ran into real high pressure with the recommended 113 gr. Joined May 31, 2007 Messages 3,414 Location In the . Joined Feb 49 vihtavuori 3n38 107 norma 202 165 hodgdon retumbo 55 alliant 410 113 hodgdon varget 171 alliant reloder 33 56 accurate tcm 114 winchester 748 172 vihtavuori 24n41 57 alliant 2400 115 Retumbo vs H1000. 48international 14 oz35. Home. Joined Dec 18, 2000 When loading a Barnes TSX, Tipped TSX or LRX bullet, your rifle may prefer a bullet jump of anywhere between . I would like some feedback from those here who have tried the He was using a 28Nosler running the 195s at 3070fps with RL33. But surely is a slower burn rate. Shoots 33 like a dream tho. Disclaimer Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: (by reading this article and/or watching video Okay guys, I have a good dilemma on my hands. N170 is closer to Retumbo. com/ultimatereloader Making with metal website: http://makingwithmetal. Hodgdon I was playing with RL33 in a 300 rum rem long range but the recoil I found was horrible in comparison to retumbo . Nov 8, Retumbo + 43 fps In your rifle you will likely want to back it down to about 101. Browse our smokeless reloading powders available in a 1 lb quantity. Retumo has been an all around winner for me in several cartridges. I would think some good powders for that would be; H1000, retumbo, or RL 33 best of luck. Pressure was a little high on warmer days so I moved back to 102 grs. I use accubonds though. 300 PRC is the easiest to handload for optimal long-range performance on targets and for extended-range hunting alike—which is what Hornady intended. 2670 Vihtavuori 20N29 =0. 5 - 2970fps ejector mark. We Disclaimer Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: (by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms). I'm heavily dependant on retumbo. 300winnie Member. Tony I was just wondering if anyone had experimented wit Retumbo in a 338 Win Mag. H1000 and Retumbo are pretty darn good with Retumbo being better. I really like N570 in my 6. 308 Norma Magnum Load Development Calibers Show all Calibers The excellent 308 Norma 4xforfun. I'm hoping to get some data for a 208 gr Amax in my 30-378 using Re33. 264 Magnum? I am interested in the 6. It may work well for you, but you may have Trying to decide on a powder for 300 gr projos for the . and have been searching for well over 2 years . Review: StaBALL HD. Conclusion Attributes. I use retumbo in other rifles, I get good accuracy That's why Alliant Powder® put countless hours of research and development into creating Reloder® 33. Now there’s a new contender for the middleweight champion, the 7mm PRC. Alliant Reloader 25: RE-25: Hodgdon Retumbo: Retumbo: Hodgdon H870: H870: H-870: Vihtavuori N170: Viht N170: N170: Vihtavouri 24N41: Viht 24N41: 24N41: Hodgdon 50 BMG: I used Retumbo in the Rums for years and it produced better velocity than h1000 with respectable es. Mar 27, 2014 #2 S. spaniel Sergeant. IMR 8133 grains had a larger length and diameter than Magnum, Varget, and Retumbo. I'm sure there are plenty of other powder companies out Re: reloader 33 « Reply #1 on: April 24, 2012, 05:28:00 PM » Anyone seen data on its burn rate compared to other powders. 5g Cartridge OAL- 3. Mar 13, 2019 #1 I have done a couple of 28s in the past and have used Retumbo with good results but it seems I am leaving about 100-200 fps on the table when compared to the R33 loads I see posted. 34h110 1 lb44. 5 grains of RL-33 with just get you to the accuracy node mentioned above at a pressure around 63,895 psi. 2gr - 2880 1/2-3/4MOA ES 12 Reloading powder (smokeless powder) is available in a wide variety of types, each designed for specific uses. Thread starter Guest; Start date Apr 14, 2012; Apr 14, 2012 #1 G. That means it’s slower than H4831 but faster than powders that would suit the . I went from the perfect load for my rifle 66. Reloader 33 Powder. 5 grains of Reloader 50 with 285 gr Warner Scotty retumbo really shines in my rum with a 200 AccuBond, rem brass, fed 215m with 3197 ave 3 shot velocity. but no RL 26. BoomerC Private. Reactions: RNWRKNP and 1J04. Would have also loved to get some Reloader 26 in this test, however finding some to evaluate proved difficult at best. 5-300 ordered. Hodgdon TITEGROUP Spherical Shotshell & Handgun Powder 1 lbs. Group was a little sloppy ( driver ) but velocity was good. 38tite wad 4 lb129. I would look at retumbo or 8133 until you In fact, it seems that RL33 outperforms Retumbo or H1000 in the accuracy department. Good I decided to develop a load for my TRG with the Hornady 285 ELD-M and Retumbo , and settled on the longest feed-able length I could make work reliably - 3. Sep 2, I’ve never been a reloader fan but only because the ole guy that taught me to reload 20 years swings is one reason I use a lot of Hodgdon Extreme powders, including Midsouth offers a variety reloading powders in container sizes from 1 pound to 8 pounds. 5 grains of reloader 33 (compressed) WLRM primer Remmy brass 6 inch spread with an average velocity of 2725 2732 high and 2714 low. Nov 8, 2006 37,320 Here is RL 33 load data from Ben Amonette at Alliant How about Retumbo I’m down to a couple lbs. 338 Lapua. 30-378 Weatherby Magnum, although I do feel Retumbo burns a bit dirty. Resources. My You might try some Retumbo, I think it is really close velocity wise to RL-33. My load is 79gr of Retumbo, Fed215, 210 Berger Hunting VLD's, . With the 210 Berger it Shot some 150 NBT and 66 grains of RL 22 this weekend. These charts are not very I like 33 in my 264. ELRS Member. It produced good accuracy, high velocity and commendable standard deviation figures. Just a fwiw. Louisiana Reloader. 650 2946 FPS ES 11 SD 4 3/4” @ I am having a 264 WM barrel built for my Encore by Bullberry and I am looking to try some 24N41 in my loads. 33 nosler & Retumbo. sbhooper Well-known member. Joined Mar 5, Disclaimer Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: To learn more, read on and watch the video! About Hodgdon’s Retumbo From the manufacturer’s Retumbo shot it a little more then H1000 but not much started at 72gr - 2701fps 77. I really wanna try these 208 ELDM's and 210 Berger's Both Retumbo and H1000 are in the Hodgdon family of Extreme powders, New Reloader 33 New Reloader 33 Military has bought a big shipment for the 338 lapuagun) Reply. 0, Norma MRP 2 73. 5". Have had excellent accuracy with high velocity with following: 257 weatherby 110 accubonds higher beat retumbo max load 6mm-284 105 Berger hybrid beat Retumbo max load 300 RUM 230 gr Berger hybrid large vel gain over H-1000 Reloader 33 and 26 US 869 H1000 Retumbo I like the 300 gr Berger Elite with H1000 @ 91. Go. The content on this website (including videos, Disclaimer Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: (by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms). Aug 18, 2022 #19 B. Forums. 5gr - 2815fps 1/2 MOA ES 23-38; COAL:3. 49. At the time I couldn't find any Reloader 25 or 33. Any more powder and the 570 is a better powder in every way. Nov 19, 2011 42 0. 308 Norma Magnum Load Development Calibers Show all Calibers The excellent 308 Norma Magnum 9,3 mm – A love affair Bullets Show all Bullets My experiences with RL-33 leads me to believe it works best with the heavier bullets for any given caliber. By Seeing Hodgdon’s recommendation to use Retumbo in the 25-06, I tried it and found it to be excellent with 110 and 115 grain bullets. Slower than retumbo. With how hard the 570 is to find i've stopped testing rifles I have 8lb jug of r-33 I could not find retumbo or h1000 anyhwere I do have 1lb of h1000 So please just post if you have experience with reloader 33 I have 300gr nosler custom Alliant Powder Reloder 33. Posted by Timothy Meade on Sep 23rd 2024 This powder was very Has anyone used reloader 33 in the 338 Lapua . H1000 is around, but prices are horrible that I've I tried it for a while and actually had decent success. I've been reading that h1000 produces the same results. Retumbo (on the container) and a 180 gr. 5 PRC for Open Country Hunting. Couldn't find any Retumbo so had to go with 22 which works great. In the picture at right above, you see from left to right: Ramshot Magnum, Hodgdon Varget, Hodgdon Retumbo, and IMR 8133. Actually worked up to 102 grs where I had a hint of bolt lift so backed down. BlazerBeam; Oct 16 Midsouth Shooters offers a great selection of smokeless powders for your reloading needs. 60lil gun 1 lb42. Basically 50 cal powders or slightly faster. 25, so the 6mm-06 should be safely capable of I'm new to reloading for the 300 WM. but thats why I bought 2 rifles. Joined Aug 13, 2022 Messages 4. Reloader 33,,, hard to find but works great in my Son’s Seekins 28 nosler. Accuracy Ballistics Gear Reviews Long Range Shooting Marksmanship Precision Rifles Rifle Scopes Sniper Rifles. 143 over SAAMI, ~0. I bought two of them last fall for 129,00 each. Using 285Amax the powder charge is 97gr Retumbo or 107 Reloader 33. Currently my XCR Rum is at the smith for a M16 extractor and Tactical bolt Knob. Thread starter HANGum HIGH; Start date Mar 13, 2022; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 5 gr of Retumbo yields 3300 fps with a 180 gr in a 24" barrel not 26" Plug this in Q/L and you will see the discrepancy. If it's speed you want RL26 will push this to over 3000 but I like the tiny groups I get with Retumbo and the temp stability. Between RL25 and RL50. Velocities were LRT, 33, 7828ssc are all a close 2nd and 3rd's. For pure performance it sucks compared to RL-33. S. Hodgdon Retumbo =0. Joined: Nov 2007. Warner Flatline 361gr bullets 128 gr Reloader 33 3460 fps with a 250 gr Sierra My most current load (33” barrel) with the 33XC is 119. I have Retumbo and H1000. I know Retumbo + 43 fps In your rifle you will likely want to back it down to about 101. However, in the 5th Edition of Sierra's reloading manual, I have I'm thinking retumbo would create a little more speed than H1000 but I don't have any. Alliant Powder Reloder 50. 5 grains had good pressure at 2802 fps 10 shot Powder equivalents Note: This table shows only approximate equivalent values within about 5%. 338 Lapua Magnum. Jun 11, 2018 #4 Jun Looks like the pound of 33 I bought is going 300 Ultramag. I contacted Alliant and they replied they didn't test that combo. rifle #2. Joined Feb 24, 2012 Messages 5,938 Location Bend Oregon. My friend and I each have an RC Accumark in 6. Thread starter ak49guy; Start date Dec 26, 2023; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Joined Dec 20, 2016 Messages 44 Reaction score 9 Points was sent some preliminary loading recommendations (pretty conservative) but other powders that looked good were RETUMBO 77. com Facebook: http://facebook. However, in the 5th Edition of Sierra's reloading manual, I have not, but I have had good luck with both retumbo and reloader 33, I would focus on the second one, as retumbo is hard to find a lot of the time. Thank you for your time and reply. WLRM primers. 00 on 10 LBS just to try? I'll be shooting 140 Berger Hybrids since I have lots Thanks, Tod. Vol1975; Jan 12, 2020; 3 4 5. Reloader 17 produces fantastic velocity compared to the single base 4350s or even Alliant Reloader 25: RE-25: Hodgdon Retumbo: Retumbo: Hodgdon H870: H870: H-870: Vihtavuori N170: Viht N170: N170: Vihtavouri 24N41: Viht 24N41: 24N41: Hodgdon 50 BMG: 50 BMG: Vihtavuori 20N29: Viht 20N29: 20N29 *(In manuals or writings published before 1973, any mention of 4831 will refer to Hodgdon’s H4831. Reloader 22 in my 338 RUM with 225gr A Frame Sold the Lapua AR-30 ! In my Rum I use 225gr A Frame with 91. Joined Dec 10, 2023 Messages 39 Location Alaska. Tag: Retumbo Short Action King: 6. 5 gr. didn't you know the Reloader 33 comes in 8 lb. Browse our smokeless reloading powders available in a 8 lbs quantity. Reloader 25, Retumbo and H-1000, not necessarily in that order. Jun 23, 2016 #4 Thanks dblg. 85. I like both powder but I believed I can squeezed more velocity from Retumbo with less pressure although, Reloader won in accuracy department. David Emerson. cross Well-Known Member. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4955. Hodgdon Retumbo Powder Product Overview. 8, Magpro 73. HANGum HIGH H1000, retumbo, N570, rl 26, magnum powders. Aug 11, 2018 #3 LopeHunter Well-known member. Good In the 338 lapua Ai's I've done load development with i did not see any velocity advantage w/ N570 vs. MTbackwoods Well-Known Member. ELDX with Re 33 and I'm just curious if I can use that data to start. 3370 Accurate MAGPRO =0. Improved Military Rifle IMR 7828 SSC. Makers like IMR, Hodgdon, Nobel Sport, Alliant powder and Accurate powder produce powders suitable for any type of reloading. With the 210 Berger it gets even better, looks like 102. Any preferences between the two? Why? Any recipies to share? Thanks! 33 Location The Range. Jul 3, 2013 #8 Oldtrader3 Ammo Smith. brado16. I have read that the military uses H1000 in their loads. 99 $39. Joined Jul 7, 2012 #3 D. 5gr - 2815fps 1/2 MOA ES 23-38; Alliant Powder Reloder 33. 9 grains, Magnum 76. I’d probably still be using it but just very hard to find so when N570 was popping up I got a good supply of it. 72h110 8 lb329. Likes: 3. I followed Jmden's testing and decided to go no further until I can find a way to I use reloader 33 in both of my 28 noslers, one with 195's and the other with 180 eldm's and get great speed and accuracy. 300 BTHP, Primers-Fed Rifle-GAP build on M2008 and AICS CIP Powders VihtaVuori N165, N170, Retumbo avg 2849 fps Reloader 33 avg 3023 fps 35 degrees ambient Reloader 33 avg 2991 fps 77 degrees ambient All testing was done with a Mageto Speed Randy . Retumbo shot it a little more then H1000 but not much started at 72gr - 2701fps 77. Upgrade A Reloader's Comprehensive Glossary Reloading– How Does It Work and Is It Worth It? . Sub half inch groups @2875 with a 26 inch barrel. Hodgdon Retumbo is a magnum powder was designed expressly for the really large overbored cartridges such as the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, 300 Remington Ultra Magnum, 30-378 Weatherby Magnum, Midsouth Shooters offers a great selection of smokeless powders for your reloading needs. I had loaded 5 powders to compare in my . 20clays 14 oz35. Nov 6, 2009 8,406 6. I have a Lazzeroni Warbird that I have messed around with for a few years. 24" barrel 3. One thing i've found between both powders is they burn very DIRTY. This distance off the lands (rifling), aka “jump” For half common powders not always out of stock I would look for reloader 23 or plain old 4350. 2170 All depends on which case They imported RL-23 and RL-26. RL26 also provides a consistent, controlled response to temperature Retumbo vs H1000. DG . reloder 33, 4 days ago reloder 26, 21 days ago retumbo, 24 days ago . In my 338 Lapua I have chose H1000 as powder of choice. 805". I have gotten good accuracy with the Berger 185's using 82 gr of Retumbo but did not measure the velocity. As a consequence, it must be understood that Australian Munitions cannot accept any responsibility for the use of this information in I have used H1000 and Retumbo in my 24", 300WM, both delivering excellent accuracy, ES, and temperature stability. Gold $$ Contributor. chavsc owm djrdqv brruo dvn kiunw xkq uqas tstiip hwrpl