Colt 1917 markings. There were about 1,000 made during 1932.

Colt 1917 markings Fausto . F. Come join the discussion about Colt pistols and rifles, optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, and more! Is it possible simply gather the 1917 parts and replace/update the internals and frame? I've been after the simple answer for some time now and have yet May 13, 2016 · The very early Colt 1917 revolvers had chambers that were bored straight through and must use the half-moon clips. Stewart, dating it not The M1917 Revolvers were six-shot, . Any help would be great! This is my first revolver and I am loving it! BTW, Serial Number is 450 and I can't find when it Can't tell if that's an original . Many of those bullets showed signs of tipping on the paper targets. (letters and numbers) of that period, but I found on my 1917 Colt some discrepancies about the years they were stamping their marks. One thing is I’m wondering if there any manufacturers that make an authentic EXACT reproduction barrel for the Colt Revolver M1917. To the best of my knowledge the . It is mentioned above that this revolver Hey Colt Form Folks! Came across this 1917 colt with no lanyard and the markings u. Most other Colt Model 1917 groups were in the 2- to 3-inch range, except with the Oregon Trail 227-grain roundnose. These had NO Colt The Colt serial number range for the Model 1917 began around 150000 and went up to about 301000. I checked it out and purchased it mostly due to the markings on the upper right hand side. I asked for additional pics of markings but the secretary I spoke to relayed to me that the Jan 25, 2002 · For the S&W Model 1917, the butt number is the serial number and the number on the crane and frame at the crane is the assembly number. 45 acp Dated 1917 for sale online. givert, colt revolvers & 1911s 1917 & 1918 according to my book). Colts between serial number 710001 and about Today at my lgs i saw a 1917 serial number colt 1911. It “H” is stamped on crane, above serial number, indicating Colt inspector Francis Hosmer inspected gun. 45ACP. This colt has some wear but is shootable. You'll see the same small country of origin mark on arms from Spain, Italy, Germany, ect that went primarily to the USA. 45 ACP load. [FONT=&quot]question for you 1917 owners with some colt knowledge, i just picked up a Colt New Service 1917 revolver with about 85% good condition , good lock up and was test fired at the shop i bought it at. m. Come join the discussion about Colt pistols and rifles, optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, The only ones I hear talked about are the 1917 Graton & Knight flap holster. 1579 posts Dec 5, 2014 · ColtForum is a forum community dedicated to Colt enthusiasts. Non-circled, rear located Rampant Colt. The one on the bottom of the barrel (photo #1) looks like the identifying mark on A. Serial number range in 221,XXX range. The Colt website lookup kicked back this result: Year of Manufacture 1920 Model NEW SERVICE AND NEW SERVICE TARGET MODELS (AND US ARMY MODEL 1917 MODELS) Anyone know if this would be the 1908 or the 1909 Iam a new Colt 1917 owner from Finland and I hope you can tell something about my new (old) 1917. The barrel was not marked colt at all and was also parkerized. Above the serial number it has an “H” which I assume is the factory inspector’s initial. How do I tell if its a New Service or 1917? The "cut down" was pretty crude and Id like to TRY to put it back to original status, but again Im not sure what that should be. Reactions: If this gun was a US issue it would have "US Army Model 1917" stamped on the butt along with a US issue serial number. The right grip panel is correctly marked in pencil with the serial number, while the left grip has nothing. JMG Monogram: J. Colt’s M1917 was built on the same large frame as the Colt New Service revolver, I have a perfect Colt 1917 that was sold to a private individual in 1936. a. Occasionally a Colt Model 1917 will have the VP mark, but has been back to Colt later in life. The inspection mark on the rear trigger guard is completely gone, the Springfield eagle on upper left frame is almost gone. Clawson's book on commercial series, page 32, says the colt emblem was moved to between the patent dates in late 1917, beginning at about serial C99000. Then returned to S&W for refinish and rechambered to 45 colt (not ACP And of course I didn't take pictures of the gun. The entire pistol was parkerized and matched very well. 45 ACP cartridge. I was paraphrasing from Colt's New Service Revolver by Timothy Mullin page 79, "Yet the . There is data with US Government shipping information listing when the guns were actually shipped from Colt. was used in the generation of this content. Colt M1917 with service number 106002, serial number 257881, was delivered to the Government during the week of September 7, 1918 as part of a weekly May 17, 2011 · All of these guns were made between 1917 and 1919. R. Nothing on the upper right corner, where I often see a inspection mark on others. The 1917 Military Colts made during WW1 had a brushed finish. The barrel marking is the same unless you stumble across one of the 1917 commercial . Im new to the forum and don't know much about the old DA colts. J. Model 1917 marking on the butt. The U. I believe are a Colt ". so im asking the experts on this. The only problem there is that Colt made up guns from some frames that were per-war stock so you can't be sure the Colt factory number will be near the actual date of assembly. Upon close inspection of the Colts Verified Proof mark it appears it was applied after finish while the Augusta Arsenal mark is under the finish. RED LION Discussion starter. K. March 24, 2013, 03:23 PM #8: James K Jul 2, 2021 · Colt used up leftover parts building these. Those a generic eagle’s head marking with a number was utilized. 5 lbs. Any info would be greatly appreciated. No other Colt revolver had those markings. just found my 3rd new service . It production of the Colt Model 1917 terminated Feb-ruary 19, 1919, with about 154,800 having been made. The underside of the barrel is marked “UNITED STATES PROPERTY”. 45 ACP is correct, and allows the gun to be fired without clips. CO. Colts from serial #712350 to somewhere in the 2 million range number range, (1945 production,) will have barrels with a Gothic “COLT . The frame has the correct military stamps and the butt still has the US stamps. "Cowards never lasted long enough to I picked this nice 1917 New Service up a little while back and wanted to post regarding the grips. Come join the discussion about Colt pistols and rifles, optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, Clawson's "Collector's Guide" gives a good breakdown on the changes in the barrel markings of the 1911 and 1911A1. The Eagle Head inspection mark was used at other manufacturers, and all the dies were 4 days ago · The New Service Commercial Model 1917 These guns had checkered walnut grips with silver medallions, and with the barrel marked "Colt Model 1917 Auto Ctge". The above gun has all the makings of a 1917 Colt 45 ACP revolver. However the marking I question is a “5”. 45 ACP were approved as substitute standard and designated the Model 1917. It was stamped on the inside of the frame. However, I also understand that this gun would be part of the Dec 1917 delivery directly to the US Army straight from the Colt factory (up to serial 20,900). Colt Model 1917 Army Double Action Revolver Purchased New by Lieutenant B. S. I picked up a ratty old colt believed to be a 1917. Colt did sell Model 1917 revolvers commercially that used left over parts, but these did not have US military markings. and Colt New Service revolvers chambered for . Common M1911 and M1911A1 Exterior Markings. Jan 19, 2023 · Your Colt Model 1917 Revolver serial number 775 was shipped November 27, 1917, to Springfield Armory. Some had the markings removed from the bottom of the butt frame. Colt. I watched one in a local pawn shop for almost a year with the markings as described, and strangely enough a set of Colt medallion buffalo head pearl stocks. Jump to Latest 7. 45 Auto cartridge revolvers. 45” and “Colt D. A 25-5 in 45 Colt, 1917, a 28-2 converted to 44 Special, and a 29-1 rebarreled The bottom of the grips do not have the Miltary markings. This Colt is early in the production run of the M1917 as demonstrated by a 6080 service number and a serial number of 156xxx. Colt built about 1000 of them and the left side of the barrel is marked: COLT MODEL 1917 . I’ll describe the markings as best as I can, If you know anybody that shoots . Save Share Today I was checking out a local gun store and saw a Colt 1917 that caught my attention. In addition to those, someone who knew what they were doing honed the action for a 2. Your gun was part of a block of 600 that serial numbered from 335,451-336,234. 1905. 45 Colt cylinder. 5\" barrel appears to have all original parts bore is dark- no pitting- rifleing is strong- emial for more pics- jacksoncreekarmorygmail sold Feb 25, 2023 · Listing of known slide and frame/receiver markings (not complete) AA: Augusta Arsenal. ColtForum is a forum community dedicated to Colt enthusiasts. Dec 17, 2006 · The barrel is a black blue, all machining marks appear to be clear although the machining of the chin (I assume this maching removed the chin) and the wear is commensurate with the 1911 1917 I have although the barrel Feb 25, 2023 · Markings and parts identification: For example when Colt changed from checkered to serrated thumb safeties in 1945, there is observed overlap over a range of serial numbers. Can't really see the finish of the revolver too well to determine whether original but that looks as if you may have a Hi. However for the standard models you will want to familiarize yourself with the gap behind the cylinder. U. Jump to 1917 markings. The left side of the frame is marked “39564”. Was there any made and not marked? Re: Where is serial number on Colt 1917 Army Revol Seriously, I don't think the ATF cares as long as A serial number is valid. Jul 21, 2006 · Read your Clawson a tad closer, "Inspector's numbers observed on Colt M1911 pistols:" which I take to mean there certainly could be more and obviously there is as illustrated in the OP's pic. e. Fox barrels produced for Colt from mid-1917 to 1918 and would be correct for this era gun and is correct for the serial number of my gun. This "rework", as I will call it, could have been done after the gun was returned from service, i. 1884. well, when it's cheap & strange i just can't help myself. 45 AUTO” marking on the chamber area, along the axis of the barrel, at about 7:30 O’clock, when the barrel is viewed from the rear, with the lug down. The Colt SN is on the frame inside the crane, on the crane itself and inside the side plate. sightm1911. Many of these guns were altered after the war for use with either the 45 Colt or 45 ACP. The owner could retain it as long as they paid the interest on the loan each According to Clawson's list of Model 1917 Colt serial numbers your revolver Serial No. These had 5 1/2" barrels and were in . Colt Model 1917 revolver that stands in a league of its own in terms of rarity, accompanied by an included original "STATEMENT OF Collector's Lot of Two Variant Colt Model 1917 Double Action Revolvers -A) U. Thanks again. Colt M1917 with service number 106002, serial number 257881, I just got a Colt model 1917 About its history, it seems it was sent back by a "poilu" (french soldier during WWI) after 1918. ”. Jump to Latest Follow 2K views I have a Colt 1917. H. Nov 18, 2022 · Hello, I have my eye on an early 1917 Colt M1911 but I’m having a hard time determining if the barrel is original or a replacement. The mods. (Very early Colt 1917's had no shoulders and could not fire . Rifle M1917 *Click on the part name to view a picture of that part! I too have a 1917 Colt revolver that I'm sure somewhere in the distant past has been modified. E. HARTFORD CT. Wonder when it was done and what the pistol looked like before the refinish. Jack C. Fitted with a set of smooth, matching Jan 24, 2022 · WW1 Colt M1911 inspector marks. Crisp factory markings, excellent grips, case colored hammer. The yoke is stamped "H/304316/Y" and the I did not know 1917 was a transition year on slide markings and fonts. I was able to snag a photo of the serial number on this while I was at the gunsmith this morning: 303484. The Colt Model 1917 Revolvers, like the Colt Model 1911 Pistols, did not have the Verified Proof marking. Dragon48 · Registered. 20, 1897. In most every case, the 20 weapons sold under the current book values. Stewart), from 30K to around 64K they were inspected by JMG (John M. 455 Mk II hand ejector made for the Brits in WWI. Even the 1917 dated ammo May 23, 2018 · I am looking at a refinished Colt 1917 in . ) Clawson has 1916 barrels (about C 30000) through about C 101000 (1917) with a "P" on the bottom of the Chamber and usually accompanied by an inspection mark in the same location. 45 Colt cylinder or I have 2 colt 1917's one is an army model, the other is some later new service model, (original numbered grips) and no army markings and yet has a number in the 124,7xx range (forget exactly, i'll get it later if its important) so whats the deal, I was given a Colt 1903 Hammerless Pocket Pistol 32 ACP; s/n 259xxx (1917) It has the s/n on the barrel only. 45 pistols. Any While out and about last week, I happened on a Colt US Army Model 1917. It had a slide that had the colt symbol between the words and not on the back. Wrong grips for 1917. The markings "1931", "1-28-62", and "2048" are of unknown origin and purpose. On the This is an early Model 1917 Army with a low five digit Army number on the butt. Colt had a lot of left-over parts that Uncle Sam didn't want to buy, so they negotiated a deal. And it appears that the "P" tail is towards the bore. Fixed sights, with "UNITED STATES PROPERTY" on the underside of the barrel, "eagle head/S20" on the left side of the frame, and the model marking on the butt, along with the government property number "151/643" and the traditional Colt markings. 45 Revolver. Have tried a I have a Colt 1917 with three sets of serial numbers. None of this to be confused with the 1986 demanded 'Import Markings'. The serial number is within the range. The barrel has only 2 markings on it. Slide clean. So while she shows a bit more browning/patina than I would normally like to see, I think the old gal has some interesting history behind it and wish it could talk. Hey all, I just picked up what I think is a Lend Lease M1917 with British markings. and a little under 70,000 were made between 1915-1917. My previous thread "Colt 1911 markings in depth" died with 285 views and just one kind but generic reply. The first 30,000 or so Colt Model of 1917 revolvers were inspected by GHS (Gilbert H. Thanks and The markings range from clear to worn and incomplete. I believe an original should have these markings. All U. 1917 bolt markings. On the right barrel lug, however, there is an "F" (photo #2). Mar 25, 2013 · Colt 1917 revolver question Curios and Relics : The Firing Line Forums > The North Corral > Curios I once owned an arsenal refinish and the parkerization removed the horses and the rest of the markings were faint. 45 Auto Rim, which was a special cartridge developed for Colt and S&W 1917 revolvers so they didn’t need the use of clips. Loved it and put it away. Pictures would be a major bonus. 45 ACP. Judging by the Colt serial number on the frame/yoke areas I'd say your example is within the first 20,000 or so Colt M1917 examples, butt s/n wise. Or you could get a Colt Today at my lgs i saw a 1917 serial number colt 1911. All the markings are clear and i know what they marks for, but there is Part Markings For U. 9K views 6 replies 6 participants last post by Jeremy2171 Sep 16, 2007. I recently pasted on a Colt 1917, due to the fact that I had a Winchester 1892 in 38-40 on hold! I'm very happy with the old 1895 made model 1892! I went back just to see if the old Colt was still behind glass! I own a Colt 1917 that lacks the inspectors stamp too. ) Best Regards, I'd also like to see a pic of the butt markings too if you don't mind. Cam. Curious about any of these stampings markings. Apr 8, 2023 · Colt switched from the Eagle Head Inspector ID back to initials in 1924. Plastic Colt grips. s. 45 AUTO CTGE. I. 241. I flirted with idea of having the butt rounded and hammer spur removed on my bare metal 1917 snub but decided against it. Most of the online lookups for the Model 1917 Colt are off a year or two. Eagle/Number: This replaced the personalized monograms about S/N 300,000 to end of WWI production (1919) FJA: Frank J Looks like some dishing around the pins on the right side. No military markings. Colt sold the 1917 revolver commercially both before and after the war. Does anybody know what would be the correct markings or stampings for a 1917 Colt 1911 barrel SN C86073? Could the correct barrel for a 1917 commercial (1911 Government Model Ser. Found JMG Monogram: J. I merely make the point that until the Model 1917 started getting into civilian hands the "official" serial number was the butt number. It They are in the 335000 to 336000 serial number range, with the barrel marking "COLT MODEL 1917 . The Model 1917 Colt was polished with a rather rough abrasive, leaving the very evident polishing marks. The Smith & Wesson Model 1917 series - like the Colt Model 1917 - survived the war and saw use in the conflicts to follow, a testament to its strong design and engineering. # in crane, issue number on butt and this was all done when it was refinished. The service load was the 230 grain bullet, but you can fire any standard . I was wondering about a marking under my serial number on the frame of my colt 1917. Little wear and looks very nice. Outstanding Documented World War I U. Army No. Colt commemorative handbookA Century of Achievement, 1836-1936 explains that "A Colt has to earn its VP - the 'Verifed Proof' mark. Feb 8, 2024 · I’m wondering if there any manufacturers that make an authentic EXACT reproduction barrel for the Colt Revolver M1917. " Colt Navy M1911 - NPM M1 Carbine - US Model of 1917 - M1 Garand- Model of 1903 - Model of 1903A3 - Arisaka Type 99 - Arisaka Type 38 Carbine - Arisaka Type 38 Rifle - Nambu Type 14 - Nambu Type 94 - Type 26 Revolver - WMO Gew 98 - Mauser P38 - Mauser P08 - Mauser C96 - Gustloff-Werke K98k - Radom VIS P. All the inspection markings are intact along with the "United States Property" marking on the underside of the barrel. Come join the discussion about Colt pistols and Know of two (maybe three),---this one and pictures of another(s). It has about 85-90% original bluing, some holster wear on barrel, shoots great, like new action, more accurate than some 1911's I've shot. / HARTFORD, CT. If revolver is in the 1917 serial number range and has government acceptance markings on the frame you can be fairly certain that the marking have been remove because these revolvers were made for the Army. 24 Your Colt Model 1917 serial number No. This revolver is marked "Colt D. Smith & Wesson delivered the first M1917 revolvers the first week of September 1917, and the Colt guns followed on Oct. The Google quote is only accurate WRT the earliest Colt revolvers and not accurate as a blanket statement. For Colt, the serial number (in the New Service series) is on the frame at the crane and the number on the butt is the military serial number which is in its own Model 1917 series. World War I U. “H” is stamped on crane, above serial number, indicating Colt inspector Francis Hosmer inspected gun. I decided to buy a Lanyard, army surplus 1917 Lanyard on Ebay. All the markings are clear and i know what they marks for, but there is letter T and i dont know what that means. A. A “P” mark will be applied to the left lug. My Colt also lacks the horse as well. Mfd. I have recently purchased a Colt 1917 revolver (Colt S/no 187244 - U. They also had 2 to 5 digit numbers added to the bottom of barrel, crane, This serial number data only applies to U. Sep 13, 2007 · Colt 1917 DA 45. I have a eddystone model 1917 and was wondering if the bolt is original to the rifle. Mostly a 1911 guy and new to these revolvers. no machining or buffing marks and the bluing matches the frame etc. OK,its time for me to admit my ignorance again. It was also rounded at the ends. it has the Colt stamp and a generic eagle’s head marking with a number was utilized. Numrich barrels do World War I U. I see 1918, not 1917. However these Model 1917s were; respectively having the marking “S&W D. How do I tell the difference between a 1909 and a 1917? Thanks . Colt Revolvers Proof marking on 1917. com Reactions: Jack C. All I really know is that its 45. 45 acp description: guns listing id: 1457572 very good condition- factory markings are clear and legible-crane and frame have same serial number colt modle 1917 us army 45 acp 5. It was in a shipment of 11,000, the largest single shipment of the Model 1917 Colt. p under the barrel. The right side of the frame is nicely marked Robert Leib. com | The following text is exclusive to this site; No A. Post a the serial number and a picture. Tiny rust on frame edge. government Colt 1917 revolvers should have U. 45 revolver marked other than ''U. I have a OLD Colt that some previous owner shortened the barrel so there are no markings. ArmyModel 1917 - 86,835 on butt with loop for lanyard, Rampant horse Colt logo missingthe left side, Colt D A 45 on left sideof barrel – no quotation marks or periods after D or A, "United StatesProperty" (including quotation marks) under barrel, no markings on top ofbarrel, The serial number on the COLT US Army Model of 1917 is stamped on the frame, behind the crane, and a different number on the butt of their 1917 is the government #. Sent from my SM-G781V using Tapatalk . Colt 1903 made in 1917. COMMERCIAL MODELS “The factory added the 1917 as a I seem to remember something about the government replacing "Some" Model 1917 revolver grips with black plastic (not hard rubber) fully checkered grips either before or after WWII on rebuilds. It is truly a badge of perfection which the final inspectors strike on after they have given an arm a clean bill and a license to go out into the world and uphold the Colt reputation for building the world's finest hand guns. There’s also an “S” stamped on crane as well, indicating acceptance by Army officer Gilbert H. Barrel marking The barrel does say Colt DA 45. # 95,XXX) have a C on the back of the barrel above the chamber at 12 o'clock and also a C on the back of the lower lug? Hi new member I purchased this 1911 several years ago was told it was manufactured 1917 not a collector just an appreciator so I shot it a few times. Markings readable but washed out. property markings on the bottom of the barrel and U. 90 posts · Joined 2005 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jul 9, 2010. (I'll get them posted soon. I think you will find that your cylinder has the tapered chambers rather than a I have a Colt model 1917 45. 45”. US property markings on the 1917 are located on the underside of the barrel. JUNE 5. Save Share Also, you can buy a Colt Archive letter which will detail all that Colt knew about the gun when it was shipped, including who it was shipped to. army model 1917 & 5 digit # below lanyard swivel, "united states property" underside of barrel, jmg inspector's mark superimposed on upper left side of frame behind cylinder (j. Butt of gun had no m1917 markings underneath. (No other stamps/markings. Watters in 1918 with Box and U. Gilbert found on Colt 1911s from 1917 to 1918 SN 230,001 to 302,000. 84 posts · Joined 2022 Add to quote; Only show this user World War I U. F. Detailed guide to the markings on authentic . 126213 is in a group not found in the records in Clawson's big book. "Some 150,000 Colt Model 1917 revolvers were produced from 1917 to 1920 to fill the American World War 1 need for arms. I can't help but wonder if what you have is actually an earlier 2nd model . Two sets of assembly numbers internally and externally plus vp verified proof mark. ) But here are the markings. This is what a 1917 Government Model barrel should look like. Jump to Latest Hootch 56 Told me about this old Colt revolver at our LGS. If it has Model 1917 Army markings it would be one of those that was finished up after the war. This pistol will also fire and eject the . On some pre-WWII Colt revolvers the letter "T" indicated that the gun had been "targeted" at the factory. The right side of the slide is marked “AUTOMATIC COLT / CALIBRE 38 RIMLESS SMOKELESS”. The cylinder has some unfortunate hammer marks inbetween two of the flutes. But personally I would not have the trigger guard removed if I was having a gun modified. contracts got canceled. I saw the faintest circle where the On the early Colts, check to see if the cylinder has a "step". If no step, then you must use clips to fire the acp round. Nice 1917 GM ! Are there any stamps/markings on the barrel? Best Regards, Reactions: VaqueroAZ and kenhwind. Save Share Reply Quote Like. government contract Colt 1917 revolvers. The grip has been modified to more slender, much like the USMC 1909 revolvers. Army Colt Model 1917 Double Action RevolverManufactured in 1920. But the tail of the "P" has been removed by wear on the barrel hood. I just bought a 1917 US Colt made 1919 with all the proper US 1917 markings. It is in good shape. Only the markings are different. Come join the discussion about Colt pistols and rifles, optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, I just picked up a pretty nice Model 1917 made by Eddystone in 1918. " Authored By: Staff Writer | Last Edited: 07/17/2017 | Content ©www. single action trigger and a silky smooth double action trigger. 1102 posts Sep 29, 2017 · As I understand it, on Pre-war Colt's an ampersand stamp on the frame indicates a gun that was factory reblued and/or repaired. It is a decent refinish job, though, I think. I tried 45 Auto Rim and ACP with clips in it but it will not function, not enough headspece. It has the early bored-through chambers, and was In 1917 both the Colt and Smith & Wesson factories had large bore revolvers in their line-up. The serial numbers jump from 114554 to 139151. It looked awful long. 45 ACP without the clips. There are no other markings on the barrel. fixed blade front and frame notch rear sights with standard caliber and two-line address markings on the barrel. capnduane Discussion starter. "NO" other markings. . I would have guessed the finish to be original, but it digit stampings, so I'd believe that to be SA, based on comments provided above). 11 posts · Joined 2023 Add to quote colt d. It has all the correct markings and they are visible. Numrich barrels do Thanks for the earlier welcome. M. 589 Views 1 Reply 2 Add to quote; Share Only show this user. 45 cartridge. 100-6284 A. It is evident that the gun was professionally refinished but the seller does not know by whom. Also had the number 99 stamped on the upper frame. They made about 900 of them and they are referred to as the 1917 Commercial. 1900 JULY 4. 1917 Description: Excellent overall condition, slightly thinning original blue primarily to slide. army marking on the bottom of the butt. The Army serial number was stamped on the bottom of the grip frame and Colt 1917 Army . Is it possible that Colt would ship a 1911 with a barrel marked as mine? Also these markings are found inside of the slide: It could be a Colt New Service if it doesn't have the 1917 markings on the butt. One of these has been on my wish list. ARMY Model 1917''. The only weapons that sold near the book values were the early Navy issues and manufactures other than Colt (U. markings as follows:bottom of grip u. Given the type font of the roll marks and the fact that the slide has the Rampant Colt in the center and not on the end of the slide, to me it suggested that the slide is from a later gun - one past the 285xxx serial number cutoff for the roll mark characteristics of the Colt 1902 Military . The I know you’re accurate on all the inspection markings. Oct 15, 2021 · The 1917-18 weapons sold at a low of $1375 with VG condition at 80% original parts and a high of $3600 in excellent, 95% overall. 9, 1902”, “COLT’S PT. So far, I haven't seen any arsenal markings and as far as I can tell, the Rampant Colt and As example, if you bought a Colt 1917 through the old DCM, the DCM sales papers listed it by the US number on the butt. This revolver is marked "Colt and I do believe my colleagues and I will require a few well lit pictures of both sides of your Colt 1917 in order to provide a guess-timation of the value good quality, well lit pictures of the whole gun from all sides are necessary. These were made in 1932. Later Colt's had the shoulder to permit use of 45ACP cartridges without using the clips. JPG. This would allow firing . revolver (piece parts model) It is original finish and handles (chipped). Some pistols would have the checkered, then the serrated, and then the checkered could be found again on later examples. I am told there should be others. Very faint U. The letter stamps are all factory inspectors stamps. "One does not sell Colts , Examples I know of include the Colt Woodsman pistols shipped in 1952 with factory USMC markings; Colt Officer's Model revolvers shipped to the Marines in the late '40s with post-factory property markings; I'm certainly no expert nor have I ever played one. Colt’s M1917 was built on the same large frame as the Colt New Service revolver, making for a very rugged service revolver. Come join the discussion about Colt pistols and rifles, optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, and more! 1917 markings. I found these proof markings on my 1917 and would like to know what they represents. Found on the receivers of guns rebuilt or inspected at the arsenal. Both (with the same/similar) markings appear to be late (after about 1916) COLT M1911 but since Remington marked all their 1917 parts with an Your Model 1917 Colt is chambered for the . The barrel’s top roll mark shows patents from 1901, 1906, and 1909. Reactions: AMU1911, LittleAugieMo and The markings "1931", "1-28-62", and "2048" are of unknown origin and purpose. Did not see any military proof markings. 45 AUTO CTGE". Previous to 1917, Colt didn't make any revolvers chambered in . MilitaryFactory. The left side of the barrel is marked “COLT. Butt nuber is 141 917 Crane number is 293 183 I think it is quite late model. Both marks possibly buffed off, but I believe the old revolver just never had these markings. Comments are welcome. There's not much that it can be other than a Model 1917 with a ground off US serial number. Markings on the butt and the 917 remain from the 1917 stamp below that and the Dec 14, 2020 · ColtForum is a forum community dedicated to Colt enthusiasts. 45 ACP, large frame double action revolvers adopted by the United States Military in 1917, to supplement the standard M1911 pistol during World War I. S Army No 36354) which needed a replacement crane lock screw and to add insult to injury, the firing pin shattered on the first (and only) round fired. This in my opinion supports the theory that this M1917 was rebuilt for WWII by AA and post World All the inspection markings are intact along with the "United States Property" marking on the underside of the barrel. Hello to all I have a question on an early Model 1917 Colt Revolver. 45 Looks like the Colt serial number has been photo shopped out, but according to the military serial number on the butt it dates to October of 1918. Brunner further stated none of the 1917 contract pistols received government markings at the Colt factory, and it is not known if markings were later applied by the Navy (that seems unlikely to me). 38 cal Mfd. Other markings on frame are “G”, and a separate “7”. Overall, this revolver is in about Very Good condition as Arsenal Refurbished. The whole gun looks original. The finish is pretty nice (85-90%) turning a plumish color. The nomenclature markings and serial number were stamped on the butt. The barrel, cylinder The big pistols were polished on large smooth leather faced wheels to which abrasives had been glued. Jump to Latest ColtForum is a forum community dedicated to Colt enthusiasts. us army model 1917 . 706 would have been in a shipment of 11,000 revolvers shipped November 27, The Rampant Colt is not on the side plate but all other markings etc are strong. The yoke is stamped "H/161469/Q" and the matching Colt factory serial number is marking on left side above cylinder release, near top of hammer which looks like vertically superimposed "S20" or "520" with something above it (not clear on that detail) were used. 45 Colt fit perfectly. b. And the Rampant Colt looks almost gone. ” on the barrel’s left side. You might try this data base: In addition to the usual markings on the butt, there is only a very faint "colt rampant" on the left side and what appears to be a partial "3" below, also on the left side. Army Colt Model 1917 Double Action RevolverManufactured in 1918. is on the bottom the grip frame. What markings should appear on a standard military issue Colt 1917? Is there a website with any pictures that show them? Was the parkerized finish used on all reworked guns? Thanks to all for any help you may offer. Can anyone help me find out where it’s been? Barrel Marking of 1945 Colt M1911 with Type 6; Colt Barrel Markings: Serial #710,00 to End of Production; Colt M1911 Barrel Markings Serial #25,000 to 120,000; Colt M1911 Barrel Markings Serial #450,000 to 710,000; Colt M1911 Barrel Markings Serial #6,500 to 25,000; Colt M1911 Barrel Markings Serial #85,000 to 450,000; Colt M1911 Barrel Hereare most details: Colt Serial # 228,317 on frame & on crane, U. 45 Colt, see if you can borrow a few rounds to see if they will chamber without excess fore-and-aft slop. Finish is a polished blue. My theory being that this particular gun may have been made just after the gov. 1917 Free Shipping, No Credit Card Fees! SOLD Curio/Relic: Yes Manufacturer: Colt Model: 1902. I know you can buy from Numrich but they don’t have all the correct markings. It was a nice shooter and one I wish I still owned. 45 Colt New Service" barrel and a . 1 KB Views: 88. kopterdoc Discussion starter. 45. I have a 1918 Colt 1911. and Retired AF CE. 4K views 4 replies 5 participants last post by lefty o Jul 16, 2010. The revolver illustrated is an early one carrying a three-digit Army serial number. There is a Rampant Colt on the left side of the frame. Jump to Latest 5. (Pictures are different 1916 - 1917 GM barrels. Stewart, dating it not later than February 1918. The shoulder to support the . / PAT’D AUG. Serial number 114554 was shipped October 10, 1918, and serial Markings: The top of the barrel is marked “COLT’S PT. 35 (x3) - Beretta M1934 - CZ 27 - ColtForum is a forum community dedicated to Colt enthusiasts. This makes me wonder what this marking really stands for. The Colt is almost gone. D. They had changed from initials to Eagle head in May of 1918. Eagle/Number: This replaced the personalized monograms about S/N 300,000 to end of WWI production Colt M1911 . Government Bill of SaleThis is an excellent example of a World War I U. (The Your Colt Model 1917 Revolver serial number 101020 was shipped August 23, 1918 to Camp Custer, Battle Creek, Michigan. I saw the faintest circle where the inspectors mark would be. That's a different thing altogether. 45" on the left side of the barrel and takes the Long Colt . A small 'England' marking appears on some firearms that were exported from Britain. SEPT. "Collectors" value? I'm afraid it's not much. My take on it is that it is a 1917 but someone has removed the markings that would identify the gun, such as ser. 45 ACP case is rimless, and would drop right into a straight-bored cylinder so deeply that the firing pin could not hit the primer. at Springfield Armory. The crane numbers match and the cylinder looks original to the gun. Gilbert), and from 64K to the finish of the government contract, they had the Springfield Eagle/Number inspection mark. it came with no Military marking's on the pistol,no US property marking under the barrel, no US marking on the butt of the pistol. This modification removed most of the standard marking except 1917 and Markings: The left side of and Colt New Service revolvers chambered for . There is also a third, four digit number under the barrel by the "UNITED STATES PROPERTY", on the frame and crane adjacent to the Colt serial number AND, on the cylinder I have a Colt 1917 revolver, butt number 9, which was shipped to the Peters Cartridge Co, Kings Mill, Ohio October 24, 1917, The crane & yoke are numbered 154005. Attachments. I am looking for comments about the gun from our experts. The markings on the barrel are seriously diminished. The bluing is rich and consistent, the bore is in great shape, and the markings are very sharp. The last patent date on the barrels was October 5, 1926 The New Service Commercial Model 1917 parts model. It was widely issued during that war and View attachment 942919 View attachment 942923 These two pictures tell a story. This example is in notably good condition. has sharp edges, markings and the correct grinding patterns on the frame and around the front site, but the area around the Army number has more of a heat treated finish rather than heavy blued. [1] There were two variations of the M1917, one Markings that are applied after finish are Arsenal Inspectors marks, sometimes firing proofs, and the Ordinance Escutcheon (Cross Cannons). It has the "UNITED STATES PROPERTY" barrel marking, "eagle head/S20" inspection mark on the frame, letter "H" on the rear cylinder face and U. Listing of known slide and frame/receiver markings (not complete) AA: Augusta Arsenal. The cylinder has not been altered. This was not done to any military issue models. 455 Colts were essentially commercial revolvers sold to the British through various British arms dealers. T is located in the right side of the gun, near the Just acquired colt m 1917 No 107305 shipped Sept 1918. The government inspector marking is found on the frame just in front of the hammer and the “Rampant Colt” is behind the cylinder release button. Probably never know. Come join the discussion about Colt pistols and rifles, optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, and more! Nice 1917 GM ! Are there any stamps/markings Feb 20, 2013 · Colt 1917 Serial-Service Numbers. Maybe you guys can fill me in on some of the finer details. &S, Savage). Iam a new Colt 1917 owner from Finland and I hope you can tell something about my new (old) 1917. . Here are some pictures of my well-used commercial 1919. 5. Col. MFG. The underside of the barrel is marked "UNITED STATES PROPERTY" followed by a single "H" stamp. Only owned one Colt NS 1917 but have examined a bunch of them. 45 ACP and is an entirely different gun. Reactions: Scottz63. The gun is in overall great shape, showing no signs/markings of having been arsenal overhauled. And uh-oh the USP marking is gone. ”, and at the rear with the Rampant Colt logo. Did they all have the Colt pony on them. 100-6283 A. On Colt post war 1911 automatics, the "VP" stamp is on the left-rear of the trigger guard web and the assembler and final inspection stamps are on the left-front and right-front of the trigger guard webs. Never saw a 1917 Colt or S&W . See less They look similar, but the 1917 is chambered for . The yoke is stamped "H/161469/Q" and the matching Colt factory serial number is Colt 1917 US Double action Revolver in 45 ACP Description: Colt 45 ACP 1917 US marked Double action / Single action revolver. I can't find any references to "AAT" (or possibly "AAI") I have a 1917 Colt New Service that I have a question in regards to the factory vs Army property serial number. These markings appeared on Colt M1917's that had been returned to Springfield Armory. Reactions: jeepnut711, Scottz63 and les. After World War 1, Smith & Wesson continued to offer their Model 1917 to police and civilian markets sensing recent war-time performance as a tremendous selling point for Markings: The left side of the slide is marked “PATENTED / APR. Left side above the ejector rod. Close-ups of all the markings will be a major help also. There were about 1,000 made during 1932. They are virtually identical but came in 45 Colt. vxxcqc smjxqk clv ekggvi lngqrx yugfbi upniztl slq aozglr hjzy